SEO Tycoon

**meanne2007** · 05-13-2008, 03:42 PM

What is the different between keyword density and keyword prominence? in keyword analysis, is there any complication between the two?

**chrishirst** · 05-13-2008, 04:08 PM

both equally useless and meaningless "buzz phrases", generally used by people who are trying to make you think they know what they are doing.

**Dan Schulz** · 05-14-2008, 06:06 AM

Chris hit the nail right on the head. The two are practically meaningless, and should be ignored. Besides, if you're going to write content for the Web, especially Web copy (sales copy geared towards an online audience), the last thing you'll want to do is write for the search engines, which is exactly what will happen when you focus on things like keyword density and prominence.

There's an excellent article on the subject over at Copyblogger that you might find interesting: http://www.copyblogger.com/writing-for-seo/

**ellie** · 05-14-2008, 08:49 AM

Basically its useless,but you have to be careful about this.so for your information I want to tell you the difference b/w keyword density and keyword prominence.

Keyword density:It can be calculated as the number of times a keyword or phrase appears within a webpage divided by the total number of words on that page

Keyword prominence:The general location of a keyword or phrase in relation to the overall text on that page.It denotes how close to the start of an area of a page that a keyword appears. In general, having the keyword closer to the start of an area will lead to an improvement in the search engine ranking of a page.

**Greham** · 05-15-2008, 05:19 AM

keyword density and prominence is the important factor for the web page.

**chrishirst** · 05-15-2008, 05:25 AM

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keyword density and prominence is the important factor for the web page.

Sooo, which bit of

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

both equally useless and meaningless

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Originally Posted by Dan Schulz

The two are practically meaningless, and should be ignored.

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Originally Posted by ellie

Basically its useless,

did you NOT understand?

**northbeach23** · 05-20-2008, 04:27 AM

Forget about Keyword Prominence and density

**davidshaw** · 05-20-2008, 06:17 AM

I used to do both these things when I first started out.

I now realise that they are totally useless!

**idisplayforless** · 05-21-2008, 03:51 AM

I dont think you need to concern too much...just put in your keywords in your title...should be enough

**usearchme** · 05-21-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by davidshaw

I used to do both these things when I first started out.

I now realise that they are totally useless!

lol same here, how guilable i was back tehn lol !

Woc

**File13** · 05-21-2008, 02:06 PM

These two phrases are responsible for hours of conversation in which a writer has to explain why they can't put "student visa student mastercard carebears unicorn mcdonalds" five times in the first 250 words to magically increase traffic and page rank.

**pow-wow** · 05-21-2008, 02:43 PM

Keyword Density- calculates the percentage of keyword words and phrases compared to the total of words in your web page body. It is also the ratio of the number of occurrences of a particular keyword or phrase to the total number of words in a page.

Keyword Prominence- refers to how prominent keywords are within a web page. The best place to place keywords in the text is at the top of each page, preferably the main page. The closer your keywords are to the start of the page or the start of a sentence, the better.

**meanne2007** · 06-02-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Sooo, which bit of

did you NOT understand?

why all most of you said that it was useless? can you explain it further

**chrishirst** · 06-02-2008, 02:32 PM

http://www.answers.com/useless&r=67

**Thomas Schulz** · 06-02-2008, 04:01 PM

I strongly disagree with those who say keyword density (and prominence) is totally meaningless. Have you ever tried buying adwords for pages that don't match with content, i.e. at least some density with primary keywords in title, headers etc?

It's up to you if you want to listen to the others here, but IMO you need to focus on having good titles, headers and matching body text for getting best results. If you are already spending a lot of time creating content, you can just as well also spend a little time tweaking the SEO part just a little.

**francis84** · 06-02-2008, 04:19 PM

When you say KW density, it refer on the number of KWs or KW phrase over the total number of words in a page.

KW prominence refer on the positioning of the KW within the page (e.g. KWs at the 1st paragraph has 100% KW prominence; KWs at the 2nd paragraph has 75% KW prominence; and so forth)

If you have other term you want to know, refer to this website:

http://www.searchenginedictionary.com/

**chrishirst** · 06-02-2008, 05:16 PM

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I strongly disagree with those who say keyword density (and prominence) is totally meaningless. Have you ever tried buying adwords for pages that don't match with content, i.e. at least some density with primary keywords in title, headers etc?

Totally different thing to what these are on about.

Most of these are looking for the magic number at which search engines will say;

"Wow! this must be a REALLY REALLY REALLY important page to have a keyword density of 13.590234587610089%. We had better put this at the top!"

It doesn't exist!!!!

When you are dealing with PPC landing pages, or the Adwords "quality score" it becomes a different ball game.
These are pages that are designed (or should be) to convert quickly and without any reinforcing external influences

**Learning Newbie** · 06-03-2008, 06:45 PM

Keyword prominence means hiring famous people to read your keywords. There's no one more prominent than the Queen of England.

**kenpachi** · 06-04-2008, 12:44 AM

Erm I never think about that issues during write my article or post. Just make it naturally and I'm sure this 2 issues been created by famous "SEO expert" person from their own view only.

**Dan Schulz** · 06-04-2008, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Schulz

I strongly disagree with those who say keyword density (and prominence) is totally meaningless. Have you ever tried buying adwords for pages that don't match with content, i.e. at least some density with primary keywords in title, headers etc?

It's up to you if you want to listen to the others here, but IMO you need to focus on having good titles, headers and matching body text for getting best results. If you are already spending a lot of time creating content, you can just as well also spend a little time tweaking the SEO part just a little.

I'm with Chris on this one. Afterall, we're talking about optimization, not marketing.