SEO Tycoon

**blogdog** · 07-09-2008, 02:04 PM

Great news - Google now has keyword counts in the keyword tool!

**tehfincheh** · 07-09-2008, 07:24 PM

Neat, I like it.

I'm a little skeptical about the accuracy of the figures though, just as I am with their keyword tools in general.

**vangogh** · 07-09-2008, 08:00 PM

Just a guess that the counts would be better from Google than other sources, but hard to know how accurate they really are.

Hopefully they'll add numbers to Google Trends next.

**juliensimon** · 07-09-2008, 08:10 PM

Are you talking about the google adword keyword tool ?
Is that what you are refering to :?

Showing keywords grouped by these terms:
search engine optimization (40), search engine ranking (14), search engine submission (7), search engine marketing (8), search engine promotion (5), search engine rank (5), search engine (31), web design (12), optimization (4), website (17), submission (4), seo (10), marketing (5), url (3), Miscellaneous keywords (5)

This is usually the site I use to count words:

http://www.prioritysubmit.com/seotoo...ord-count.html

Otherwise I tried to find my own rain man...no luck yet.

**vangogh** · 07-09-2008, 08:25 PM

Yep, the Google AdWords tool. Up until a few days ago it didn't show numbers, just the green bars.

Keyword Discovery (in your link) is a good tool. People are excited about Google showing numbers since in theory their numbers would be more accurate. Many keyword tools will try to predict how many times a phrase will be used at Google, but their numbers come from other sources You'd like to think Google could do a better since they're giving actual Google search data.

**juliensimon** · 07-09-2008, 08:40 PM

I always use at least 3 tools when it comes to calculate expected traffic because none of them provides me with the same results for the exact same phrase or word. I then do an average of the 3 and hope it's somehow accurate. I use a free version of wordtracker (http://freekeywords.wordtracker.com/), google ad word traffic estimator and Seo Book Keyword Suggestion which analyze traffic per search engine. (http://tools.seobook.com/keyword-too...book/index.php)
again, I tend to "believe" google traffic estimator more but I like outside views too.

**Local SEO** · 07-10-2008, 12:44 AM

Personally I don't use keyword tools... How can you gain an advantage if everyone else is using the same tools? Doesn't everyone get the same answers?

**Dairyman** · 07-10-2008, 01:05 AM

I am using the tool keyword analyzer7 which gives a lot of data about the searched term

**northbeach23** · 07-10-2008, 05:46 AM

Is that tool accurate than Keyword Discovery and wordtracker?

**juliensimon** · 07-10-2008, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dairyman

I am using the tool keyword analyzer7 which gives a lot of data about the searched term

I don't think buying a software for keyword analysis is worth it as you don't know how accurate is it compare to all those free one.

Do your results differ from Google's result?

**vangogh** · 07-10-2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Personally I don't use keyword tools... How can you gain an advantage if everyone else is using the same tools? Doesn't everyone get the same answers?

That's true to a degree, but at the same time isn't it good to have that same information. It's better than having no information.

The numbers alone aren't the whole story. Two different people looking at the same set of numbers could come to two different conclusions about which are the best keywords to target. A lot of people do use not so common methods for collecting keyword information just to have different information. But even the same information is better than no information at all.

**abhi** · 07-11-2008, 04:23 AM

hi guys, am a bit new to what you are talking about. Can anyone explained me please what you are talking about. What is this adword, etc..

**ezwoodz** · 07-11-2008, 07:36 AM

Is the result accurate? because I used keyword discovery and the result was totally different and too far.