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Old 07-24-2008, 06:20 AM Trouble with SEO
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Hi, we're starting a campaign to try and SEO our company's site and I'm struggling to find any keywords that are really worth pursuing. The site is for a computer products and services company (link in my signaure) and I've been tring different combinations in wordtracker but don't seem to be getting anywhere. So I was wondering, does anyone have any ideas? And what would you do if you were me and it turned out there were no decent keywords? Whats the strategy for general optimization?

Any comments would be appreciated

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Old 07-24-2008, 10:23 AM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Dear Dan,

To briefly introduce myself, my name's Mal Darwen and I work for www.wordtracker.com customer service. I stumbled over your thread, and thought it was worth a reply.

I must confess I did have some difficulty finding your site to have a look at so I hope that http://www.matrixcomputers.co.uk/index.html is correct!

Looking through your site, I do have some suggestions for your SEO. Without an intimate knowledge of your company I did some research around your core services on the Wordtracker tool. This should show that the search volumes for Scottish specific computer service and related terms aren't very high, but there are things you can do. Despite there not being a lot of geographic searches being made in your area, it's clear that people in the UK are searching on things like 'computer help', 'slow computer', 'affordable computer help'. An online business like yours, having the facility to mail order or to offer online support to customers outside your area can be invaluable. For example, you can give some good advice to someone in Southampton, and they might tell their granny in Oban that the lovely guy just down the road from her knows his stuff, and she could call him to get her first computer and learn how to e-mail... spurious, I know, but I think you'll get my meaning.

Having your company name in the title bar of your site, and the header of your body text is satisfying to see, but unless you have a company that is well recognised on a national or international level, it's unlikely to help in terms of search engines ranking you highly. If you use words and phrases that are relevant to your business activity (computer services, computer help, etc) in those places and also in the body of your copy, the engines will respond more positively over time.

In the world of SEO, content is king - if you write about what you do, incorporating carefully chosen keywords in the text, again, the search engines will notice this - one of the interesting things I have found in exploring how search engines operate is that they look for evidence of human activity on the net - if you write articles, case studies, keep a blog, all of these things can help as part of an SEO campaign.

...and on I go - I'll close here, but to say that it's well worth educating yourself in google analytics (easy to find by searching), which will allow you to track your site's traffic, and show you which keywords people are using to come to your site, and allow you to take those keywords and build on them. Many online marketeers these are looking at what keywords people are using to search before they even decide what product they are going to market on.

I hope this is useful - in terms of keyword research I can recommend that you take the free trial at Wordtracker to explore what you can do with it - you can check it out at http://www.wordtracker.com/trial - or you can feel free to contact us at support@wordtracker.com for advice on the tool.

I wish you the best of success with your project - the above is by no means a comprehensive guide to SEO, merely a brief outline, but it should give you a starting point.

all the best,

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Old 07-24-2008, 08:18 PM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Dan I notice too that the link in your signature isn't working.

Choosing keywords can be a bit of an art. WordTracker and similar sites will help you collect the data, but you still have to use your experience and knowledge of your industry to choose which phrases to use from that data.

You might want to check out the WordTracker Academy. There's a good free ebook there too if you click the ebook link.

Another good ebook on keyword research is from Emarketing Performance Look to the right and scroll down a bit. Just below the marketing book you'll see the freebie PDF on keyword research.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:41 PM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Try to use keyworddiscovery.com/search.html
Then, search for some keyword using the KW computer.
Find some KW related to your website: computer, computer desk, desktop computer, computer desktop, notebook computer, laptop computer

Get it?
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:05 PM Re: Trouble with SEO
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i used keywordspy and adwords. In keywordspy, it tells you the exact terms and phrases that are driving the most traffic to your competitors' websites.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:03 AM Re: Trouble with SEO
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i use google adwords to generate keywords. try reading some articles regarding on on-page optimization, search on search engines.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:44 AM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Your signature link is not working, And i use google adwords and keyword county for my analyzation.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:14 AM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Dan I notice too that the link in your signature isn't working.
Thanks Steven (and the others who did) for pointing this out, I missed a letter from the URL

Thanks everyone for your advice and suggestions, I've made a note of them to check all of the tools and sites you mentioned.

Having said that, as of last night I have been reading a book called 'Get to the Top on Google' by SEO expert, David Viney. I have already read some books outlining the basics to SEO, and they taught me a lot, but this book is in far more detail.

I would reccomend anybody with an interest in SEO take a look at it, or maybe have a look at his website, http://www.seo-expert-services.co.uk/

Thanks again for all the advice
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:12 AM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Hello mald,

I just want to say thanks to you as your contents helped me a lot.

Take care.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:21 PM Re: Trouble with SEO
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My suggestion would be to open a Google Adwords account and use their free Keyword Tool. It works for me.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:50 PM Re: Trouble with SEO
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I would suggest that you consider geo-targeting. The search volume are low but that traffic is highly targeted. It should also be much easier to obtain high search engine placement for these words... Good luck.
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:51 AM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Thanks everyone for the advice, it was most helpful
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:27 AM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Same problem the link is not working...

Anyways go for Google Adwords
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:42 AM Re: Trouble with SEO
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Same problem the link is not working...

Anyways go for Google Adwords
I get the distinct feeling you posted this without really looking into it - especially as the link in fact DOES work now.

Coincidentally, at exactly the same time as you posting this, I was myself starting a new thread which I think maybe you could look at:

http://www.webmaster-talk.com/seo-ta...eo-advice.html

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Old 08-18-2008, 05:32 PM Re: Trouble with SEO
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What? Someone posting without actually reading the thread? Nah, couldn't be. No one ever does that.
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