SEO Tycoon

**euges429** · 07-25-2008, 08:40 PM

http://www.rethinkto.com

I have a travel guide to toronto, canada. currently, the title is:

"Rethink Toronto: The second generation travel and visitor's guide to the world's most multicultural city."

I'm thinking of changing it something like:

"Rethink Toronto: Toronto Canada Travel, Toronto Guide, Travel to Toronto"

Those keywords I found seem to be good ones with less competition through Adsense's keyword tool.

Which would you suggest? I dunno, the second one (with the keywords) seem to be stuffing it.

(Of course, this will alslo depend on the content of my website/pages, but in general, which title is preferred or best for SEO)?

**chrishirst** · 07-26-2008, 05:58 AM

depends on what you really want;

A bunch of content scrapers or real qualified visitors

**bobkat** · 07-27-2008, 02:05 AM

I would replace the " , " with " | "

**tehfincheh** · 07-27-2008, 07:01 PM

The first one is too long for me. I try to keep my titles to under 8 words with one primary keyword.

A lot of that title text could go just as easily in the meta description which is quite regularly used as the snippet of text that'll display underneath the title in the listings.

**francis84** · 07-28-2008, 12:11 AM

Quote:

"Rethink Toronto: Toronto Canada Travel, Toronto Guide, Travel to Toronto"

This is much better compare to your current Title.

**avor** · 07-28-2008, 02:22 AM

i suggest you use the keywords on your meta title

**eautocad** · 07-28-2008, 03:46 AM

I would use a keyword density analyzer

**psylocke** · 07-28-2008, 03:57 AM

that's a very long title.. and if your keyword is toronto that's already stuffing from the title itself you repeated it 4 times.. i suggest for the title keep your keywords together.

**northbeach23** · 07-28-2008, 07:00 AM

"Rethink Toronto: Toronto Canada Travel, Toronto Guide, Travel to Toronto" is better because it contains your keywords

**juliensimon** · 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avor

i suggest you use the keywords on your meta title

The meta Keyword is pretty much ignored by SE's so that would help you much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eautocad

I would use a keyword density analyzer

"Rethink Toronto: Toronto Canada Travel, Toronto Guide, Travel to Toronto"
10 words, Toronto appears 4 times=40% density Now what? Ho weird, that doesn't help.

**blogdog** · 07-28-2008, 10:15 PM

Use the one that makes the most sense if you were reading it outloud to a human being.

**globalcelebrity** · 07-29-2008, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euges429

"Rethink Toronto: Toronto Canada Travel, Toronto Guide, Travel to Toronto"

instead of this title: "Rethink Toronto: Toronto Canada Travel, Toronto Guide, Travel to Toronto"

i would suggest this title:"Rethink Toronto: Toronto Canada Travel and Guide"

what do you think guys? any opinion?

**farishussain** · 07-30-2008, 09:32 PM

Hi

I think second one is best.

**Ilyes** · 01:50 PM

I think you should not add "Toronto" many times, twice will be great, the title of globalcelebrity is the best for you

"Rethink Toronto: Toronto Canada Travel and Guide"

**Local SEO** · 08-01-2008, 07:17 PM

Page title should be void of any characters. Who will ever use rethink when looking for Toronto for anything?

Think book titles when creating page titles. Use only targeted keywords phrases

**JimmyJimmy** · 08-03-2008, 10:09 AM

I'd just take the primary keyword you're targeting but make it readable and relevant. You will want to have your most important words first in your title.

eg. "Travel Guide to Toronto, Canada"

**Foundationflash** · 08-03-2008, 12:26 PM

I'd go with something more like: "Rethink Toronto: A travellers' guide to Toronto, Canada" which is more readable, but says what it needs to.

**wayfarer07** · 08-03-2008, 02:34 PM

Confused yet?

**avor** · 08-03-2008, 10:05 PM

think of the keyword that is most likely used by the searchers. Then use it on your meta title. It is important to use your keyword on your title.

**globalcelebrity** · 08-04-2008, 12:47 AM

well, try to analyze your keywords also..i mean search if how many were searching to your chosen keywords, because it's useless to rank in SERP if only few people searching your keywords..