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Old 09-13-2008, 08:26 AM Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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When we are going to do link building what is better from bellow two example .

1. Example :. Title :Books shop
Url : http://www.example.com
Description :.................
2.Example: . Title :Books shop ,Books store, Book place ............
Url : http://www.example.com
Description :.................

What is better ?
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:34 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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Neither! they are both awful!

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Old 09-13-2008, 09:37 PM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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you dont use just keywords in a title. you use the keyword to form a meaningful line. for example, "Local Bookshop Offers Discounted Books"
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:11 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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SEOFocused is right. Use a more descriptive title with a keyword you target. Also you can put your keyword you target in the description part.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:16 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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Your number two example looks more like what you would use for the metatags for the page. A descriptive title is much better than just the simple keyword, both for the search engines and the people searching. Don't focus on just what the SEs look at - real people will be choosing from your title and a bunch of others so you need to think about what your visitors want.
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:28 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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you dont use just keywords in a title. you use the keyword to form a meaningful line. for example, &quot;Local Bookshop Offers Discounted Books&quot;
This one i the right way to write title for the site. The first title you write doesn't have a meaningful line. The other one looks spammy. you abused the word book.
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:14 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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very good tactice to put keywords in title tag.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:04 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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It is very necessary to put keywords in Title. It is really helpful for achieve googd ranking in Google SERP.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:32 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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It's really necessary to put keywords in title since it's one of the great factors in an on-page optimization. But you don't have to over stuff your keywords in title. You must also consider your viewers if it's eye-catchy to them.
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Old 09-16-2008, 02:52 PM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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That's what i think to put keywords in title
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:56 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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Use them as a short phrase.
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:55 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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keywords should be putted in meta tags and your title must be what is your site all about.
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:48 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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I was just about to ask a similar question - spooky!

So it is better to have a more descriptive page title than one stuffed with keywords?

So would a (work better from a search engine point of view) than b?

They keywords being Graphic Design, Bolton, Lancashire

a) Vizcom are an innovative graphic design agency based in Bolton, Lancashire.

b) Graphic Design Bolton, Lancashire
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If you run the related queries "graphic design bolton", "bolton graphic design", "bolton graphic designers", "graphic design agency bolton", is there any entry that stands out from the rest?

Get a decent title in there along with a related description and YOU get the better chance at clickthroughs.

But why not test it?
Have two pages targeting the same phrase, one with title a), one with title b) or have the pages show alternate titles on a 6 or 8 week cycle and monitor the clicks from SEs to each page/version.

You can set the pages to send and email each time a SE referrer lands on the page(s) to make it simpler than trawling though site logs.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:13 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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That sounds like a good idea.

Do you believe that people really take that much notice of the title when using the search engines to find a possible supplier/product? Do they not just click on the first few listed websites, make contact and then decide whether they want to buy from them?

Do you believe that someone using a search engine to find a product or supplier will go to the the second page looking for the website with the most relevant title?

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Old 09-17-2008, 08:19 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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Do you believe that people really take that much notice of the title when using the search engines to find a possible supplier/product? Do they not just click on the first few listed websites, make contact and then decide whether they want to buy from them
It depends on your target audience. People looking for graphic designers are more likely to be internet savvy and marketing savvy so are less likely to pick the first result they see.

Make up an experimenting page that looks like a SERP, maybe even mock up some adverts. Show different titles and descriptions for the results and get colleagues and friends to pick what they would click on first. Even a small scale real world test just round the office can tell you something.
Maybe you can extend it and email a link to people, add tracking refs so you can tell who clicked what first.

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Do you believe that someone using a search engine to find a product or supplier will go to the the second page looking for the website with the most relevant title?
They most certainly do, AND you often stand more chance of getting a click through from 1 to 5 on page 2 than being 6 to 9 on page one.
It's the "below the fold" thing where people don't even notice the scroll bar until they want to go on a page, then they seem to click on "2" or "Next" before looking at results 6 to 9.

Track your referrers for existing pages and see where your results come from, it's far more productive than rank checking and you could find that being 11 or 12 is better for the ROI than being 7 or 8.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:06 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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That's really useful information and with a lot of the posts on this forum gives me a lot to think about. looks like I need to re-think my strategy and not get too hung up on appearing high for certain terms but maybe aim for more qualified click-throughs.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:56 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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but i think the url must add the keywords
Well you would be wrong in that case!
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:48 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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Better to use a phrase as the title.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:26 AM Re: Is this nesscery to put keyword in tittle .
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Putting keyword on the title gives more weight is SE rankings. But make sure to be more descriptive.
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