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Old 09-19-2008, 04:33 AM keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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On another thread Chris told me that a descriptive page title will mean that your website is more likely to receive click throughs and this is much better than just putting keywords in the title. I've started to experiment with this and was wondering if any other people on the forum have done this and what results they have had.

The sites I have optimised have seen large increases in traffic, click throughs and most importantly gained new business and I'm wondering whether or not to change the page titles to more descriptive ones.

What are your thoughts and experiences?
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Old 09-19-2008, 03:06 PM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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It depends on the site, and, more specifically, on whether the site is intended to be seen by human or robot visitors. If you never want a human to look at it, it doesn't matter. Otherwise, yes, it's important.
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:07 PM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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Depends what you mean by keyword stuffing. If you're targeting the keyword 'buy widgets' and your page title is

Buy Widgets from XYZ.com

that's not keyword stuffing. It's using the keyword and it's also descriptive. I think that's what Chris was suggesting in the other thread.

The would be keyword stuffing:

Buy Widgets | Buy Widgets | Buy Widgets | Buy Widgets | Buy Widgets

You should get your main keyword phrase into your page title and preferably toward the front, but you still want it to be descriptive to entice a click. It's hard to imagine people looking favorably on the link that's 'Buy Widgets' over and over.

You can also use your keywords or specific phrase more than once without it being spam

Buy Blue Widgets, Red Widgets And Other Colored Widgets From XYZ.com

I think all Chris was saying in the other thread was make it so a human being reading your title isn't going to think spam. That's what the make it descriptive is all about.
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:39 AM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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Thanks for the tips. So which of these two titles do you think would be better?

a) Buy Blue Widgets, Red Widgets And Other Colored Widgets From XYZ.com
b) Buy red, blue and coloured widgets online from top widget maker XYZ.com
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:24 PM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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Either seems fine to me. Both read well enough. I think the word 'online' is unnecessary in the second title. The first title gets the word widgets closer to the front and uses it three times, while the second title uses both widget and widgets. That might make it less focused on either, but allow the page to rank for related phrases for both.

I can't say one is automatically better than the other. Both are likely fine, but ultimately you have to try one measure what happens, try the other and see which one works best.

If I was choosing, I'd probably go with a), but I can't say it's definitely better. Just the one I would choose.
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Old 09-23-2008, 03:06 PM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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At the risk of this being a "me too" post (which of course i will have to report and then delete ) I agree totally with Steve, even down to the superfluous "online".

Either one would be fine.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:35 AM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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Thanks for the tips. So which of these two titles do you think would be better?

a) Buy Blue Widgets, Red Widgets And Other Colored Widgets From XYZ.com
b) Buy red, blue and coloured widgets online from top widget maker XYZ.com
Either the two title is OK.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:53 PM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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keyword stuffing any where is a horrible idea. Write for your users and not for bots, and you'll get the best results.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:40 PM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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Keyword stuffing is a bad idea, just include keywords naturally.
Google penalises for keyword stuffing .

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a) Buy Blue Widgets, Red Widgets And Other Colored Widgets From XYZ.com
b) Buy red, blue and coloured widgets online from top widget maker XYZ.com
This is not what I would call keyword stuffing, but you wouldnt want to mention widgets anymore on a), you're good!
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:31 PM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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I have to agree with the 2 prior posts above mine about keyword stuffing.

Most search engines hate stuffing, and will slap your site some heavy and severe penalties for stuffing keywords. This can, in turn, hurt you in the long run.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:52 AM Re: keyword stuffing page titles good or bad?
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My fault for using the wrong terminology! What I should have said was that is a more descriptive page title better than simply just putting the keywords in the title eg.a) Graphic Design, Printing and Websites from an established, Bolton Advertising Agencyb) Graphic Design, Printing, Websites, Bolton, Advertising Agency
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