SEO Tycoon

**kidsnscience** · 10-16-2008, 07:11 AM

yes bounce rate means people closed your site immediately so any how its effect

**sirtokealot** · 10-30-2008, 08:21 AM

Wow there are a lot of uninformed people on here, which just goes to prove the post count and IQ are not something that correlate.

Bounce rate DOES effect your serps - But only if the viewer is using Google toolbar and they selected the option that allows the toolbar to "anonymously send useage stats to Google" this option is asked when you enable pagerank in the toolbar.

It would not take much in terms of coding to determine from this information if a site is relevent to the keyword that the browser landed on that site with.

This would certainly play a part in Google's huge algorythm

**wayfarer07** · 10-30-2008, 09:38 AM

If bounce rate affected your rankings, then something like this would give a quick boost to your rankings, even though it is totally destructive. Come on, think, people.

**sirtokealot** · 10-30-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer07

If bounce rate affected your rankings, then something like this would give a quick boost to your rankings, even though it is totally destructive. Come on, think, people.

I doubt very much that the service they are offering will do anything except get the clients site banned.

Think about it logically, what would be the point in google collecting usage stats if they didnt put them to use. Of course it has an effect in serps as it helps to determine who is the authority site for any given keyword.

**wayfarer07** · 10-30-2008, 10:42 AM

"The service they are offering"?

All you are proving to me is that you don't read anything in-depth. The link I gave you was a spoof, written by me, so "they" are not offering any service whatsoever.

**juliensimon** · 10-30-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer07

"The service they are offering"?

All you are proving to me is that you don't read anything in-depth. The link I gave you was a spoof, written by me, so "they" are not offering any service whatsoever.

That's too bad. My mom told me I would look nice with a pink hat.

**wayfarer07** · 10-30-2008, 11:03 AM

Maybe you should put a pink-hat on your pig-mask wearing avatar.

**juliensimon** · 10-30-2008, 11:26 AM

woohoo. I will see big boost of my rankings now

**wayfarer07** · 10-30-2008, 11:28 AM

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You must spread some Talkupation around before giving it to juliensimon again.

Darn you Webmaster-Talk!

LOL.... Are you getting any actual work done today dude?

**juliensimon** · 10-30-2008, 11:30 AM

not for the last little while

**chrishirst** · 10-30-2008, 03:34 PM

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Bounce rate DOES effect your serps - But only if the viewer is using Google toolbar and they selected the option that allows the toolbar to "anonymously send useage stats to Google" this option is asked when you enable pagerank in the toolbar.

Right then, so you think that the Google engineers won't have already looked at the crap that is "alexa rankings" and decide against doing exactly the same?

Toolbar users make up a very small percentage of the overall users of Google, so why would anybody purposely ruin their credibility by using a statistically minute sample to change things for every one of their users?

Certainly the toolbar data and stats gleaned from cookied users can be used for personalised results where the system can identify a particular user agent/user that has requested "personalised results" but other than that, it does NOT make sense to base results for millions of searches a day on data gathered from 1 or 2 percent of those searches.

**TheRazor** · 10-30-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sirtokealot

Wow there are a lot of uninformed people on here, which just goes to prove the post count and IQ are not something that correlate.

Bounce rate DOES effect your serps - But only if the viewer is using Google toolbar and they selected the option that allows the toolbar to "anonymously send useage stats to Google" this option is asked when you enable pagerank in the toolbar.

It would not take much in terms of coding to determine from this information if a site is relevent to the keyword that the browser landed on that site with.

This would certainly play a part in Google's huge algorythm

At last a guy that knows what he's talking about.
I really don't know what is up with this forum, as I just joined, but you guys (SEO and Google Forums) are just showing some very huge lack of SEO knowledge and still you guys mean you know business.

Perdon me but I think you really should start testing more and profaning less agains other peoples tested theories.

Regards,
TheRazor

**wayfarer07** · 10-30-2008, 05:59 PM

This is coming from someone who thinks you need to be mindful of the quality of incoming links to your site, so that you don't get linked to from "bad neighborhoods"...

**sirtokealot** · 10-31-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Right then, so you think that the Google engineers won't have already looked at the crap that is "alexa rankings" and decide against doing exactly the same?

Toolbar users make up a very small percentage of the overall users of Google, so why would anybody purposely ruin their credibility by using a statistically minute sample to change things for every one of their users?

Certainly the toolbar data and stats gleaned from cookied users can be used for personalised results where the system can identify a particular user agent/user that has requested "personalised results" but other than that, it does NOT make sense to base results for millions of searches a day on data gathered from 1 or 2 percent of those searches.

How can you compare the data from Alexa and Google? If you knew anything about internet marketing you would know that about 75% of Alexa users are in Asia or Russia, the other 25% are webmasters and advertisers.
You only need to look at the top 40 sites to see.

Chris you are missing the point, i said "This would certainly play a part in Google's huge algorythm"

Play a part, a factor, call it whatever. They use this information to weed out the garbage and find sites that hold visitors. I did not say the base their entire ranking structure on it.

I have been doing this for the past 6 years and make a good living from it so please dont try and tell me i dont know what i am talking about. Just because my post count is low does not mean i am a idiot.

**wayfarer07** · 10-31-2008, 08:09 AM

And, let me guess... you have been "toking a lot" for the ENTIRE six years?

**chrishirst** · 10-31-2008, 08:38 AM

I was NOT comparing Alexa data with Google data directly. The reference is to the method of collecting the data, Alexa toolbar vs Google toolbar.
Neither of the toolbars has more than a very small percentage of overall users so is a statistically insignificant figure. Add to this the skew that is introduced by the toolbar user demographic makes it bad practice to use the gathered data. Thirdly for the Google toolbar, the stats gathering option is turned off by default, so the data gathered is only really coming from the toolbars users that are in the website industry (webmasters, SEO/SEM site owners etc)
This demographic is NOT what Google consider to be their user base. These people have a vested interest in getting their OWN Internet properties higher in the Google results, and unwanted bias in the results is something that Google engineers work hard at avoiding, so why would they use data that is going to be skewed to suit a small percentage of users to affect results for their real users?