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Old 12-08-2008, 05:21 AM Is there a pr update todays?
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Hi,

My website PR down to the PR 0 about 5 days ago. My pages are still indexed in the google directory and my traffic is not down. Could you give me information about this?

My website address is: www.rockdays.net
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:28 AM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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Well, I didn't really hear anything about the update but 5 days are not really enough to say anything.

Wait for a few more days.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:03 AM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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My pages are still indexed in the google directory
What has the "google directory" (ODP mirror) got to do with it?

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my traffic is not down.
So why would you even care?
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:17 AM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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What has the "google directory" (ODP mirror) got to do with it?

So why would you even care?
Because i think PR is important for my page quality and i need to give backlinks to other sites that need to improve search results. I cant make link exchange with a PR 0 web page.
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:22 PM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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Because i think PR is important for my page quality and i need to give backlinks to other sites that need to improve search results. I cant make link exchange with a PR 0 web page.

Why not? link exchange with another relevant website will be way more beneficial to your company than a useless PR link exchange.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:45 PM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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Why not? link exchange with another relevant website will be way more beneficial to your company than a useless PR link exchange.
I didnt say anything about relevant website link exchange. But who wants to give a link with a Page Rank 0 web page?

Anyway how can i learn why is my pagerank down to 0 before a pr update ?
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:04 PM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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I don't think you quite understood what Julien was saying. In the case of your site, which is more important to you, getting users that keep coming back to use your site or getting a PageRank number from Google?

I hope that your answer would be the first answer. Repeat users or visitors are going to come back, which means they're more likely to click on your ads (which I'm guessing you would consider important). A good way to get that kind of user (in your case, you would be trying to get people interested in music), is to exchange links with other sites about music because it would be more likely that those users would also become users of your site. That's called a relevant link exchange.

A PR link exchange scheme, however, won't deliver that type of user and what's more, it's essentially useless because it doesn't really help you jump up that much in the search engine rankings. Did you know that toolbar PageRank isn't the only factor in determining where your site ends up on a search engine results page? In fact, it's almost useless, especially since it only gets updated a few times a year but the search engine results can change by the minute. You might want to try reading this to discover a few of the other, more important, factors.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:13 PM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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I don't think you quite understood what Julien was saying. In the case of your site, which is more important to you, getting users that keep coming back to use your site or getting a PageRank number from Google?

I hope that your answer would be the first answer. Repeat users or visitors are going to come back, which means they're more likely to click on your ads (which I'm guessing you would consider important). A good way to get that kind of user (in your case, you would be trying to get people interested in music), is to exchange links with other sites about music because it would be more likely that those users would also become users of your site. That's called a relevant link exchange.

A PR link exchange scheme, however, won't deliver that type of user and what's more, it's essentially useless because it doesn't really help you jump up that much in the search engine rankings. Did you know that PageRank isn't the only factor in determining where your site ends up on a search engine results page? In fact, it's almost useless, especially since it only gets updated a few times a year but the search engine results can change by the minute. You might want to try reading this to discover a few of the other, more important, factors.

Thanks.

I know much more about search engine ranking. I have finished a lot of courses and read lots of book. PR is not important at all when the search engine ranking is talking. But it is good for you if your PR is high. Cause more PR gets you more search engine bots visits. And its confirmation of that you have a good planned link schema. Anyway my concern is banning from google. Why google down my page rank 0? There wasnt a pr update soon. And my page are still indexed. How the page rank down 0? Is the datacenters have problem or what?
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:29 PM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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Thanks.

I know much more about search engine ranking. I have finished a lot of courses and read lots of book. PR is not important at all when the search engine ranking is talking. But it is good for you if your PR is high. Cause more PR gets you more search engine bots visits. And its confirmation of that you have a good planned link schema. Anyway my concern is banning from google. Why google down my page rank 0? There wasnt a pr update soon. And my page are still indexed. How the page rank down 0? Is the datacenters have problem or what?
There could be a lot of reasons: some incoming links got removed / stopped working - the site that was passing you link juice dropped his PR, which means less juice passed which dropped yours (it's like Google is playing domino), the PR toolbar might be broken or given you a wrong number (just to mess with you)
Just so you know, PR is updated continually. The toolbar you see is never up to date.

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Cause more PR gets you more search engine bots visits
Don't mix the cause and consequences. Higher PR is mostly the consequence of more incoming links. More incoming links means more channel for bots to access your website....which will do nothing to your rankings.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:31 PM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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But it is good for you if your PR is high. Cause more PR gets you more search engine bots visits
Nope, not even close.
THE LINKS get a site "more SE visits" NOT the PR. Secondly why do think you need "more SE crawler visits"?
If your pages update every day a single visit a day is as good as 1000 visits a day, the other 999 are merely using (wasting) bandwidth.

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And my page are still indexed.
If you were banned your site wouldn't be indexed.
All that has happened is the useless toolbar PR value is showing 0, and if you are exchanging links based on that useless value, it's not really surprising that it is 0.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:43 PM Re: Is there a pr update todays?
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Thanks juliensimon and chrishirst. I am thinking about your comments. Hope i will fix it. Thanks again. Time show the truth..
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