SEO Tycoon

**TODMovies** · 12-23-2008, 06:50 PM

How many keywords are good to target for a site?

**witnesstheday** · 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TODMovies

How many keywords are good to target for a site?

Twelve and a half for most sites. If your site is rectangular, add an extra 4, all of them with at least 2 consonants.

If it has any shades of green in it, subtract 3.6 keywords, ideally ones with juxtaposed vowels (aka dipthongs).

You'll need to buy the copyrights to the words. I personally own the copyrights of these words, so you can't use them:

the
and
from
latest
lowest
credit
crunch
monkey
uncle

You will also have to make sure the keywords are all preceded by an encantation from a harry potter spell book, and you will need to wear a mythril blazer and handle a lot of hobbits and dorks (or something), before being forced to karaoke the beavis voice on a a beavis and butthead cartoon and eat your own head just to prove yourself capable of defying the concept of the paradox. Oh yes, you will be: you WILL be...

SORRY. Just my 183 cents. I'm sure that the correct answer is: AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.

**Decaf** · 12-23-2008, 08:46 PM

as many as you want tod.

**vangogh** · 07:58 PM

Funny Adam.

Alan I assume you can tell Adam was being facetious. The reason is there isn't any specific number of keywords you should target for a site. The 'as many as possible' is closer to being correct, but even that isn't entirely correct. I offer web design and development services, but I'm not planning on targeting phrases like

free web design
cheap we design

no matter how many people search those phrases.

What you want to do with keywords is do your best to discover words and phrases that people are using to find what you're offering. Keep looking for more and keep refining your list. If you notice a phrase is sending you some traffic and that traffic is converting into sales or leads put more effort into improving where you rank for the phrase and look for more phrases that are similar and might also lead to the same results.

You can only optimize a page for so many words and phrases, but as you build your list look for phrases that suggest new content or even new services and products.

If you visit [url=http://www.polepositionmarketing.com/emp/]this page[/utl] and scroll down a bit there's an excellent PDF on keyword research that happens to be free. It gives a really good overview of how you might build a list of keyword phrases for a site.

**namln** · 12-24-2008, 05:43 AM

Do not more than 20 keywords, target it to your niche

**~ServerPoint~** · 12-24-2008, 06:05 AM

As much as possible but not more then 3 or 4 per each page.

**hem** · 12-24-2008, 07:45 AM

Depending on the pages and niche of your website. I think 1 keyword per website is best.

**chrishirst** · 12-24-2008, 07:56 AM

A single keyword per page makes them read as if they were written by an illiterate chimpanzee.
3 or 4 target words or phrases for each page will assist with copywriting AND optimising

**CrownCart** · 12-24-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

A single keyword per page makes them read as if they were written by an illiterate chimpanzee.
3 or 4 target words or phrases for each page will assist with copywriting AND optimising

Chris do you recommend having anchor tags for each of the 3-4 keywords in each page? and is there a certain way I should be pointing them to different pages for better optimising?

**chrishirst** · 12-24-2008, 02:07 PM

Not really, having different anchor text in site navigation leading to the same pages is more likely to confuse visitors.
In your main navigation using the most descriptive phrase works well, which may or may not be what is deemed to be the most competitive, but having got them to your site, then getting them to where they need to be to secure a conversion is the priority for a commercial site. The phrase they used to find the page may or may not be exactly what they are looking for. I've seen it many times when tracking a purchase. The buyer has landed on one page then clicked to another page and bought something similar (the site sold watches BTW) Same make, but different model.

However, it's another thing where your own testing is vital, rather than relying on anecdotal "evidence" or someone's "theory". Your site and the visitor behaviour may be totally different to anyone else's.

On HTML sitemaps it's worth plugging in a couple of keyphrases to the anchor text, and if you have category listings (sitemap style) with a text snippet, linking to the page in the snippet using a couple of the phrases can be a help in getting pages found.

**CrownCart** · 12-24-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Not really, having different anchor text in site navigation leading to the same pages is more likely to confuse visitors.
In your main navigation using the most descriptive phrase works well, which may or may not be what is deemed to be the most competitive, but having got them to your site, then getting them to where they need to be to secure a conversion is the priority for a commercial site. The phrase they used to find the page may or may not be exactly what they are looking for. I've seen it many times when tracking a purchase. The buyer has landed on one page then clicked to another page and bought something similar (the site sold watches BTW) Same make, but different model.

However, it's another thing where your own testing is vital, rather than relying on anecdotal "evidence" or someone's "theory". Your site and the visitor behaviour may be totally different to anyone else's.

On HTML sitemaps it's worth plugging in a couple of keyphrases to the anchor text, and if you have category listings (sitemap style) with a text snippet, linking to the page in the snippet using a couple of the phrases can be a help in getting pages found.

Thanks for your advice, I highly appreciate it.

**importexportus** · 12-29-2008, 05:36 AM

Depend on top of the pages.
But not use more then 3 or 4 per each page.

**kidsnsciencee** · 12-29-2008, 05:38 AM

i generally target 1 keyword 1 page

**chrishirst** · 12-29-2008, 11:12 AM

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targeting of 10-15 keywords are sufficient for the site

Sure it is

IF there is ONLY 5 or 6 pages in the whole site.

**johnkhan** · 12-30-2008, 08:38 AM

I think it depend on your budget. it will better around 25 keywords generally need for a site.

**Decaf** · 12-30-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by johnkhan

I think it depend on your budget. it will better around 25 keywords generally need for a site.

Keywords help your site be noticed by search engines, they don't "cost" anything.

*Edit* *yay* 150 posts.

**jackmarsh** · 01-09-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by importexportus

Depend on top of the pages.
But not use more then 3 or 4 per each page.

Right dear, i agree with you....

that is depends upon a particular website pages.

**juhasan** · 01-11-2009, 11:18 PM

I personally don't target keyword but try to target bunch of keyword phrases. Benefit of that is even visitors are not searching the keywords, related keywords are working for me. Just an example, instead of adding "live" to all my keywords, I alternate between "streaming", "broadcasting" etc.

**varunbihani** · 01-12-2009, 01:39 AM

It depends on how vast you niche is... Use as many 'related' keywords as possible. Also use alternative phrases.

**soapnuts** · 01-13-2009, 12:42 AM

Ten Keyword or phrase is ok for a page but use highly volumed keyword of page.