SEO Tycoon

**seo_man** · 01-17-2009, 02:00 PM

Many people struggle with SEO and website optimization, but never the less, it is vital to the success of a website. A lot of people seem to have many questions about SEO.

What do you think the hardest part of SEO is?

**AD7863** · 01-17-2009, 02:04 PM

I think being patient is the hardest part of SEO. Well it is for me.

**~kev~** · 04:10 PM

Building quality backlinks.

Because as I am trying to build links and keywords, someone posted a link to my site with the wrong keyword. I like having links, but only when the keywords are related to my site content.

**chrishirst** · 01-17-2009, 06:31 PM

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someone posted a link to my site with the wrong keyword

Tch, people just linking to your pages just because they want to!!

So inconsiderate.

Links are not SEO BTW.

**seo_man** · 07:22 PM

Links and Search Engine Optimization

Without links, we would not have the internet with websites, as we do today.

Links can be linked and traded with websites many different ways.

Links are able to be optimized to help establish relevancy of a websites for selected keywords.

Optimizing keywords and keyword phases using links is an important part of search engine optimization that is often under estimated and frequently overlooked.

Linking to other websites and trading links with other websites is a very important part of SEO, but how links are linked makes all of the difference in the world.

Not only does the website and contact on the website matter, but how links are linked to other pages and website matters too.

The way that we link web pages internally and externally with other websites and/or web pages, determines Google PageRank and the search engine placement for all sites on the internet. Of course, every search engine has a different method to determine that which web site is 1st place, top 10, top 20, and so on...

Just because a website is 1st place today does not mean it will be 1st place tomorrow.

The one thing that all search engines do have in common is they are attempting to establish relevancy. Which basically means; it is trying to give you, what it thinks you want based on what you search for and how you search for it. When someone wants to find something on the internet, typically they use a search engine to attempt to find it. Search engines do not know what we want when we search for something, but by using a complex algorithm, the search engine attempts to make a calculated guess.

Google keeps their algorithm a closely guarded secret. Knowing this formula would be the key to success for any search engine optimization expert and/or anyone that wants have a website listed at the top of Google.com

I personally think how links are linked matters more than the website or websites that they are linked to.

- What is the best way to link to other websites?
- What is the best way to trade links with other websites?
- What is the most effective way to link when trying to establish relevancy of keywords for to placement at search engines? (Google - Yahoo - MSN)

1st place at Google.com is best place to have a website listed when performing search engine optimization, so that is what everyone seems to "aim for."

Top 10 at Google is not bad, but just not as nice as first place. However, if a web site is not within the top 20 results for the keywords that you have selected, then the chance of a potential customer or new visitors finding that site not very high. Experts say that most people do not look beyond the top 20 results of a search engine when performing a search to attempt to find something.

Have any advice, questions, or comments about SEO and Links??? Don’t hold back…

I do not think I know everything about SEO, but I try to take a logical approach when I think, because search engines use an algorithm that is based on logic. Search engines often update their algorithms in an attempt to improve the logic that it uses to help people find what they want on the internet. (just as Google.com is about to do again)

**chrishirst** · 01-17-2009, 07:52 PM

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Have any advice, questions, or comments about SEO and Links??? Don’t hold back…

As I said earlier links are NOT SEO they are advertising and marketing.

**seo_man** · 01-17-2009, 08:24 PM

I do not hold that to be true 100% of the time.

That statement could be considered true but, just not 100% of the time.

What you are saying is: "All Links Are Ads" (feel free to correct me if I am wrong)

I do not think what you are saying about links holds true to all of the time, and/or to every link.

**~kev~** · 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Tch, people just linking to your pages just because they want to!!

So inconsiderate.

Links are not SEO BTW.

The keywords people put in links can have a positive or negative impact on your sites SEO and on your google ranking.

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

As I said earlier links are NOT SEO they are advertising and marketing.

Google webmaster tools, and google disagrees with you.

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Google webmaster tools - Dashboard - Statistics - What Googlebot sees - external links to your site

Go there and take a look at that list. Those are keywords that are used in links to your site. This also tells google "what" the content of your site is about.

Keywords in links are VERY important to search engine optimization.

**chrishirst** · 01-17-2009, 09:19 PM

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Go there and take a look at that list. Those are keywords that are used in links to your site. This also tells google "what" the content of your site is about.

I'd say that was an excellent definition of what advertising does. Wouldn't you?

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Keywords in links are VERY important to search engine optimization.

Keywords in links are telling people what the page is about therefore by that simple fact they are ADVERTISING what you should find there!

Does the tagline on a movie poster improve the movie? Nope, it advertises it. THAT'S how links (and the anchor text) should be viewed. It doesn't improve the page it is pointing to, it tells the viewer where to find it.

**wayfarer07** · 01-17-2009, 10:30 PM

In the 1970's, scientists, in search of alien life, attempted to transmit a message to the stars by broadcasting from a radio telescope pointed towards a star system more than 20,000 light-years away. Was this 3-minute broadcast a form of optimizing or advertising?

**VirtuosiMedia** · 01-18-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer07

In the 1970's, scientists, in search of alien life, attempted to transmit a message to the stars by broadcasting from a radio telescope pointed towards a star system more than 20,000 light-years away. Was this 3-minute broadcast a form of optimizing or advertising?

Either way, I think it's resulted in a horrible bounce rate.

**The-Pixel** · 01-18-2009, 05:30 AM

I think everything about SEO can be hard. It can get old and repetitive building backlinks and such.

**Feydakin** · 01-18-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ~kev~

The keywords people put in links can have a positive or negative impact on your sites SEO and on your google ranking.

And please explain how it can be a "negative".. If it were a "negative" then you could adversely effect someone's website by linking to them with "negative" keywords..

Where do these ideas come from??

**Sharepoint** · 01-18-2009, 11:57 AM

I assume that the whole thing on the subject of SEO can be present hard....
But most hard is get quality back links...

**chrishirst** · 01-18-2009, 01:00 PM

Actually getting "quality links" is remarkably easy. You just need quality content to start with.

**doradito** · 01-18-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Pixel

I think everything about SEO can be hard. It can get old and repetitive building backlinks and such.

Yes! Old and repetitive and artificial.
If you are going onto social networking sites and trading favors with people whom you otherwise wouldn't be making friends with, it can seem artificial.
Less natural, than, say, two shoe store owners in the same town who agree to refer customers to each other if the customer can't find what he needs in 1 store.
So, it would be better to get those links to develop in a more natural fashion, right? Except that googl and the other SEs seem to value these type of backlinks, google itself even suggests that you promote your site this way.