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**versasol** · 08-14-2009, 09:54 AM

Hello guys,

I have 1 website, which is hosted just before 2 months. It is having flash on almost all pages.

As much i know, for new websites, flash images are not good to put on as it takes long time to load and even web page size gets increased.

Now, my website's home page size is 1.24MB. Do i need to reduce the size of webpage? Also let me know what is preferable size of any webpage according to search engine algorithms.

If its not possible to remove flash form the webpage then is there any other option to further with this same thing?

Thanks
Ankita Shah

**chrishirst** · 08-14-2009, 10:04 AM

You know, I thought I had heard just about every "theory" going but here we are.

**edgray** · 10:42 AM

hmm. Page size would matter mainly to your visitors - I for one get bored with extended loading times and simply navigate away. I doubt SEs care too much though. 1.24mb is on the large side of things...

Make sure the flash file is placed on an HTML page using SWFObject. This way, you can place HTML "behind" the flash movie, which is obviously good for search engines, as well as the disabled who might require screen readers. This way, the search engine spiders will see the HTML version, which will load nice and quick.

BE VERY CAREFUL with this technique. Whist it is a legal requirement in Europe for accessibility reasons, Google for one does not like being given different information than what is viewed by a human visitor. Make sure the HTML contents of your page reflect EXACTLY the contents and message of the Flash movie.

Either that or just dump flash and make the whole site in HTML and save yourself a big headache.

**Dave011** · 08-14-2009, 10:42 AM

first think for users, If they visit your site and they don't have high speed connection they will surely close your site and look for another site, by that you'll lost a possibility to get sales. What I want to point is, try to reduce the size by using xhtml and put the flash in other pages that may help.

**shakir** · 08-16-2009, 01:27 PM

Page size matter for SEO.. if take time to load may be SE bots will ignore some bottom content.. and also irritating visitors by letting them wait to open

**chrishirst** · 08-16-2009, 01:41 PM

IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!

You are confusing rendering (all elements visible) with loading.

"bots" don't wait for the site images, flash, CSS, javascript etc to load and render! They grab the HTML source code and then disconnect, having streamed the source code back to the datacentre in less than a second. AND if it takes more than 1 second to stream the source code from your server you have FAR more problems than caring about SE bots.

Most of you should STOP reading the misinformed drivel that is bandied around by "experts" and actually UNDERSTAND how things really work!!!
Then some of you might even manage to become real SEOs instead glorified link beggars!!

**chrishirst** · 08-16-2009, 01:43 PM

AND

the "reading" of the source code takes place at a later stage in the entire process by a separate software agent.

**soumenpaul** · 07:20 AM

The page size is one of the most important facts in SEO. Lower the page size is lower will be the download time of the page. Heavy web pages irritate both visitors and SE bots. They may bounce to another site if web page takes enough time to get download.

We could reduce the size of a web page as follows:
- Using external CSS
- Using External .js files.
- Using sever side includes.
- Minimum use of flash images.
- Improve Text to HTML ratio.

**chrishirst** · 08-17-2009, 07:24 AM

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Using sever side includes

Huh???!!!!!!
What EARTHLY difference will that make to the size of the page????????

Quote:

Improve Text to HTML ratio.

???