SEO Tycoon

**Kwinzee** · 12-09-2009, 11:55 AM

I looking for some software that can scan several documents, against eachother for duplicated text, so that it shows me the % of plagiarism of all documents that have been plagiarised. I do not want to scan against content on the internet, there're loads of those services!

I tried the Viper program but it freezes on 98%. I've tried a few others but am not impressed!

Does anyone have any suggestions? Free software would be better...

**MrFlicks** · 06:15 PM

http://www.copyscape.com/

Copyscape may be what you are looking for!?!?

Let us know if it fits the bill? Though admitedly it works online so may not be exactly what you wanted!

**Kwinzee** · 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlicks

http://www.copyscape.com/

Copyscape may be what you are looking for!?!?

Let us know if it fits the bill? Though admitedly it works online so may not be exactly what you wanted!

No its not what I am after.. I want to check text files (after jetspinning) against each other for duplicate text. I want this so that the articles I submit do not get filtered out by Google!!!! And in effect leave me with more unique content, with links... I have been trying Viper plagiarism checker Beta. It does exactly what I am after but for some reason it doesn't work right. Maybe the official release will work better..

**chrishirst** · 12-10-2009, 02:17 PM

It's dead easy!

After

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check text files (after jetspinning)

Yep they are all plagiarised.

You don't need any kind of tool to tell you that!!

**FenceGuy** · 12-10-2009, 05:18 PM

I guess I am confused here, if you wrote the article then it shouldn't be plagiarism. YOU should know whether it is or isn't!

**MrFlicks** · 12-10-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FenceGuy

I guess I am confused here, if you wrote the article then it shouldn't be plagiarism. YOU should know whether it is or isn't!

Your not the only one Keith!

Am a seeing this right?

You seem to be implying "Kwinzee" that you need a tool that you can download in order to scan and check content you have copy and pasted and then edited, so that befor you load it you can be sure you won't get flagged for plagiarism, is that correct?

If so good luck, but sorry I can't help you, I think if "You" write your content, even using references that you can rewrite from "better", you would not have to worry about this.

Or am I on the wrong track?

**Kwinzee** · 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

It's dead easy!

After Yep they are all plagiarised.

You don't need any kind of tool to tell you that!!

I've had a fair bit of practice now at jetspinning and I am certain that all of the end articles make perfect sense. And with the amount of variation (synonyms, quotes etc.) I put into the seed article, I'm certain that at least 30 of them would have very little plagiarism. Submit one a day, one spin per month.

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Originally Posted by FenceGuy

I guess I am confused here, if you wrote the article then it shouldn't be plagiarism. YOU should know whether it is or isn't!

I write my own content. But when I submit my articles to article directories, I write an article related to the content on one of my URL's and spin it with jetspinner. It saves me time and helps too.

But I want this scanner to test the end result articles from the spin, against eachother, to see which of them have the most unique content. I will then submit them and throw the rest....

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Heres an example of one paragrath...

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{{{An|An ordinary}|A typical} audio conference call is {basically|simply} a {telephone|phone} call {but with|with} {a|a slight} difference|Audio conference calls {are|are simply} {telephone|phone} calls {but with|with} {a cool|an} extra {feature|element}|{There’s|There is} one {basic|little} difference {between|with} {an audio conference|a conference} call {compared|in comparison} to {a typical|an ordinary} {telephone|phone} call}. {With {a conference call|conference calls} {multiple people|many} can {join|take part} in the {conversation|conference} or {just listen|listen} in|{That|The} difference {being|is} the {ability|option} for {several|multiple} people to {talk|join in} {or|or just} listen in {to|on} the {call|conversation}|{Multiple|Various} people {can|are able to} {join|take part} in {or|or just} listen in to the {same conference call|meetings or calls}}. {{This|Which} explain the conference {part|bit}|{Which|This} is where the conference {part|bit} comes {in|in to play|from}|{Hence|This is} why {it is|it’s} {called|referred to as} a conference call}. {{Depending|All depending} on {the|what} {service or set-up|service} you {use|have}, {it is|it’s} {optional|entirely optional} who {you would||you’d} {like|want} to {take part|join} in the {conference|tele-conference} {or|and} who listens in on {{what is|what’s} being {said|discussed}|the conversation}|{It is|It’s} {{up-to|entirely up-to} you|your choice} who {joins|takes part} in the {conference|discussions} or who {just listens|listens} in, {depending|but that depends} on {what|which} {service|set-up} you {use|have}|{You have|You’ve got} {complete|total} control over {which people|who} can {have a say|join in} and {which people|who} can {just listen|listen} in on the {meeting|conference}}. {Example; {you are|you're} a {managing|company} director and you {want|need to} {debrief|tell} different {department|branch} managers of {updates|any updates} in {your policies|policy}, without {unnecessary interruptions|{getting|being} interrupted {too much|unnecessarily}}|If you {owned|own} a {franchise|large franchise} and {wanted|needed} to update {several|all} {departments|branches} at {once|the same time} without {being|getting} {interrupted|unnecessarily interrupted}. {This is an|Just one} example of {why you {might|may|could} need|the {benefits|advantages} of} such a control|One example {is|could be} a {company|managing} director {may|might} need to {explain|highlight} {forthcoming|future} issues to {several|multiple} {departments|branches} without {being|getting} {questioned|interrupted} too much}.

**chrishirst** · 12-11-2009, 05:21 AM

By the sound of it you don't actually know what plagiarism is.

**Kwinzee** · 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

By the sound of it you don't actually know what plagiarism is.

Yeah I do!!! It's copyright theft or copied content!!! The kind of program I'm after is designed for preventing plagiarism.. But, as I mentioned above. I have a different use for the software... But it is still called a plagiarism check!!!!

This way, when google indexes the submitted articles, less of them will get filtered out for duplicate content!!!

**chrishirst** · 12-11-2009, 06:51 AM

As I said, you don't actually know.

Copyright theft/infringement is copying items (not necessarily written works) in their entirety and reproducing them without permission.

Plagiarism is taking another persons written work and PASSING IT OFF AS YOUR OWN

Then IF you are merely "rewriting" YOUR OWN ORIGINAL WORK why exactly do you need to check it for "plagiarism"

"self-plagiarism" may exist as a concept, even more so now among the Adsense bandits trying to ~~defraud~~ squeeze every single cent from the Google advertisers, but if you produced the original the intellectual property is yours any way.
Though reading up on derivative work might be a good idea.

While you are there (chilling effects) read through Copyright and Fair Use section.

**Kwinzee** · 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Then IF you are merely "rewriting" YOUR OWN ORIGINAL WORK why exactly do you need to check it for "plagiarism"

I use the term plagiarism as thats the function of the software I am after. It's duplicated content I want to avoid.

If I submit multiple articles to directories, and many of them are considered to be duplicates by Google, many of the links in the articles will be considered worthless by Google, and this will affect ranking.

This is the reason why I want this software. I want to try and prevent this from happening. I'm not stealing work. I'm not spamming. I just want to try this type of software.

Oh yeah, why shouldn't people try and squeeze some money out of Google? They could probably end world poverty with their bank balance!!!

**chrishirst** · 12-11-2009, 10:51 AM

Yes you are spamming.

You are just creating JUNK "articles" (using the term articles VERY loosely indeed) and to be quite honest I would suggest that they would still be

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considered worthless by Google

whether they were duplicated or not.

**Angelosanto** · 12-11-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kwinzee

Oh yeah, why shouldn't people try and squeeze some money out of Google? They could probably end world poverty with their bank balance!!!

As a student of ethics this was an interesting read.

So by your rationale, theft and fraud is permissible only when your victim can afford to be stolen from?

I believe that is a footnote of the 10 commandments, along with:

Thou shalt not kill*

*unless the person you are killing is a spammer

**Kwinzee** · 12-11-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelosanto

As a student of ethics this was an interesting read.

So by your rationale, theft and fraud is permissible only when your victim can afford to be stolen from?

Theft? Fraud? I ain't stealing anything!! Google gave me the adsense code to place on website, legally! People sometimes click on the ads, legally! Google sends me a cut of the money they make from people clicking my ads, legally!

And as I've said mulpitle time in this thread, I create all my own content. Some of it is a bit boring or poo, but its all mine except what was on the website when I bought it...

**MrFlicks** · 12-11-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwinzee

Theft? Fraud? I ain't stealing anything!! Google gave me the adsense code to place on website, legally! People sometimes click on the ads, legally! Google sends me a cut of the money they make from people clicking my ads, legally!

And as I've said mulpitle time in this thread, I create all my own content. Some of it is a bit boring or poo, but its all mine except what was on the website when I bought it...

Mind if I ask, did you but this website on somewhere like eBay?

I ask as the last line in your last post implies you bought some website produced for making money from adsense.

If that is so, you will find websites like that are full of duplicate content articles and getting anywhere using them will be like flogging a dead horse. You will not get any decent SERPS of any kind using such a website.

**Kwinzee** · 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlicks

Mind if I ask, did you but this website on somewhere like eBay?

No I bought it off of a friend for next to nothing, as he has too many websites... I know some of the content is poor and some is even plagiarized. The reason for this is, the previous owner was using a cheap content writer from India, who was about as reliable as the Presidents word (not too reliable then). Eventually I will fix it all and luckily there isn't too much content on website to work through.. I am not working on it full time yet though as I have another job (recession!).

And a message for all the critics... You may call me a spammer.. You may say my tactics are flawed... But a friend of mine does virtually the same as me and he is ranked in the top 2 or 3 in google search results , for tons of competitive keywords.. Above many websites with millions of links, when he has a just few hundred, which proves the links are powerful.. And these websites he has at the top are not considered junk by google..

He submits jetspinner articles just like me, and they do help ranking (provide powerful links). He has never ever been penalized in anyway, which further proves that these articles are not considered as spam. These link to a blog just like mine.. I simply want to improve this process some more..

Jetspinning just helps those of us that do not have much time or money to create loads of original articles to submit..

But some people on here are so stuck in their own ways, they criticise anyone who has a different way of doing things.. I have had all kinds of jobs and I meet these kind of people in all jobs.. And 1 thing I have learned over the years is that there is no exact way to carry out ANY TASK!!! In any career!!! So you shouldn't pay too much attention to these criticism's.

Back to the point though, Plagiarism scanning mulptiple text documents against each other. Anyone know of any software that does this??? It was originally designed for college lecturers to check students work against the internet or, AGAINST EACH OTHERS WORK (this is what I need), for plagiarism.

**MrFlicks** · 07:15 PM

Well there are loads of online services, some free soe paid, but finding one to download I thibnk you will find fairly difficult. It's best just to Google various inter related search terms for what you are looking for untill you come acroos the thing you are looking for. I see turnitin is used by some Uni's Schools Colleges etc, but again it is online and not free.