SEO Tycoon

**gh05** · 12-17-2009, 07:24 PM

Can you get penalised by SE's for posting links on forums and blogs?

I'm just starting a website and have done some onsite SEO and am creating the best content I can but I'm struggling to know where to start with off site SEO. I've got some visitors from a few links I've posted on forums but am not sure if this can get me penalised by search engines.

What's the best way that I can get backlinks and improve pagerank quickly? I don't know of any sites that would exchange links with me yet and I've heard that link exchange isn't much good unless the other site has a high pagerank anyway.

Thanks!

**chrishirst** · 12-17-2009, 07:34 PM

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Can you get penalised by SE's for posting links on forums and blogs?

Who knows? but it WILL get you penalised by blogs and forums.

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I've heard that link exchange isn't much good unless the other site has a high pagerank anyway.

Nope it's complete drivel. The useless Toolbar PR is the LAST thing you should be looking at.

I'd suggest forgetting all you think you know about "SEO" and restarting your "education" from right here.

**arnabme** · 12-18-2009, 01:51 AM

What Chris said and my suggestion is to be choosy about the commenst because you will find a lot of irrelevant comments as well.

**steveA** · 12-18-2009, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

I'd suggest forgetting all you think you know about "SEO" and restarting your "education" from right here.

I agree with this message

**jhenna** · 12-18-2009, 01:58 PM

I don't think you will get penalised by SE's for postings your link on forums and blogs if you are not making black hat techniques, and in blog you are updating your content by uploading article daily and that what SE's wants, fresh content..

**webcosmo** · 12-18-2009, 02:02 PM

If you get links from adult forums, possible that your site would be considered adult and get vanished from non-adult serps

**chrishirst** · 12-18-2009, 02:35 PM

NOPE!!!

**gh05** · 12-18-2009, 07:39 PM

I think some people have misunderstood my post. I meant going around and posting links to my site on OTHERS blogs...in the comments section. i.e. not just creating my own blog posts.

Anyway, I'm going to forget what I've learnt so far as advised but I would like to know if anyone can recommend any software to help with SEO? I've seen something about an seo extension to firefox bt am not sure if this is free or even worth it?

Thanks.

**Angelosanto** · 12-18-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gh05

Can you get penalised by SE's for posting links on forums and blogs?

No, but that's spamming, it's not really fair to forum and blog owners who are actually trying to create a site with good content, so don't bother doing that. Plus, most forums will penalize you for that.

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Originally Posted by gh05

What's the best way that I can get backlinks and improve pagerank quickly? I don't know of any sites that would exchange links with me yet and I've heard that link exchange isn't much good unless the other site has a high pagerank anyway.

Once again, I may sound like a broken record but organically optimizing is the best way to go, just stop looking for that quick fix or miracle that will boost you to the top of SERP's cos it aint gonna happen.

And as for reciprocal links, I've just been talking about this here

**Angelosanto** · 12-18-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gh05

I've seen something about an seo extension to firefox bt am not sure if this is free or even worth it?

It's free, and it's OK, I don't really use it much anymore but it's quite good if you're getting to grips with the basics of SEO. I still use it occasionally, it's more of a series of shortcuts than an actual program.

Get it here if you want

**tayomismo** · 12-19-2009, 09:19 PM

no.. you will not be banned from the SE but u will be banned from a blog and forum. also be banned in akismet if you are marked as spam. just be careful on your postings 'cause it will pull you down.

**alex_cristo** · 12-20-2009, 11:23 AM

Well, not sure about the search engines but may be you will penalized and banned by moderators.

**Kwinzee** · 10:11 AM

Yeah yeah yeah, it can be seen as spamming. But in my experience, most blog comment links tend to be no follow so it isn't really worth using them for SEO anyway. I suppose you will get some traffic but I know I never really check comments on blogsites, so therefore never click on the links.

As far as forums go, so long as you use them properlly and ask questions that people are interested in, or give possitive suggestions. Then it isn't spamming as you are providing to the forum's community!!

If you just write for the sake of links, then of course it is spamming and chances are you will get banned and loose all links anyway. Me personally, I am here to learn, and learning I am!!!

But neither of these would ordinarily damage SE ranking!!!

**SoftwareDungeon** · 12-21-2009, 10:56 AM

Hi, IF the links are irrelavant and have nothing to do with the subject then it will score less with google. Relevant links are always good for forum or google. dont worry about it.

**FenceGuy** · 12-21-2009, 06:45 PM

"Links are advertising not SEO" I think I read something like that in a really great moderator's signature.....

Worry less about links and they will come.

As far as commenting on blogs, this has been bothering me this week, so I wil rant now:

Blog comments are for conversation/interaction with the blogger and other commentators. Find blogs that are relevant to your niche/topic. Don't look at them as competition, look at them as your friends or community.

If you ignore all the "do-follow" this and "no-follow" that and just try to find blogs that have really good conversations and the content is something you can appreciate and learn from (be genuine here, if it is not interesting and you aren't really going to read the frickin articles, then don't waste yours and everyone else time by putting some "great article" comment in).

If you find some blogs and subscribe to them with a reader (I use Google Reader) and keep up with the articles and comment ONLY when you can add to the conversation. It is possible to "build" a community this way that MAY click over to your blog and read it to see if you actually are genuine or just spamming for links.

Essentially, the word can spread about your articles and if they are of quality content, then you may actually get a NATURAL link.

Most important though: BE GENUINE it's not about links, it's about community and interaction.

Ok, how was that?

**Kwinzee** · 12-21-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FenceGuy

"Links are advertising not SEO" I think I read something like that in a really great moderator's signature.....

Worry less about links and they will come.

As far as commenting on blogs, this has been bothering me this week, so I wil rant now:

Blog comments are for conversation/interaction with the blogger and other commentators. Find blogs that are relevant to your niche/topic. Don't look at them as competition, look at them as your friends or community.

If you ignore all the "do-follow" this and "no-follow" that and just try to find blogs that have really good conversations and the content is something you can appreciate and learn from (be genuine here, if it is not interesting and you aren't really going to read the frickin articles, then don't waste yours and everyone else time by putting some "great article" comment in).

If you find some blogs and subscribe to them with a reader (I use Google Reader) and keep up with the articles and comment ONLY when you can add to the conversation. It is possible to "build" a community this way that MAY click over to your blog and read it to see if you actually are genuine or just spamming for links.

Essentially, the word can spread about your articles and if they are of quality content, then you may actually get a NATURAL link.

Most important though: BE GENUINE it's not about links, it's about community and interaction.

Ok, how was that?

Yeah most of this I agree with 100%. But I do not care what anybody says, link building does help. It is a small part but a useful part. I have witnessed this for myself.

You just have to make sure they are in the right places. The right sites. The right topics. The ones that give you traffic. And generally, the majority of these sites links are not no follow. And gradually you will see results.

I'm not saying I know all the right places but I know some of them...

**ian0031** · 12-22-2009, 01:26 AM

No, you can't be penalized by search engine as long as you do the whitehat technique of SEO and not those black hat. Search engines especially Google can easily detect if you use some blackhat techniques to optimize your site. In fact in building so many links is the required one but be sure those links are quality ones. Posting on forums and blogs are one of the most effective ways in the off page SEO.

**FenceGuy** · 12-22-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ian0031

No, you can't be penalized by search engine as long as you do the whitehat technique of SEO and not those black hat. Search engines especially Google can easily detect if you use some blackhat techniques to optimize your site. In fact in building so many links is the required one but be sure those links are quality ones. Posting on forums and blogs are one of the most effective ways in the off page SEO.

Posting on forums and blogs is "promotion", the links are pretty well worthless. Commenting on blogs may get you some traffic and someone may like your site and then link to it in an article on even on their front page. That would be a link of value worth 1000+ blog or forum comments.

**Mike Smithfield** · 12-22-2009, 08:00 PM

Forum posting = Marketing
Blog posting = Is used for seo purposes,
You wont get penalized for posting on both, just be sure to post on relevant sites related to yours, and never Spam..cause the Mods or blog owners can Ban you.

**FenceGuy** · 12-23-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Smithfield

Forum posting = Marketing
Blog posting = Is used for seo purposes,
You wont get penalized for posting on both, just be sure to post on relevant sites related to yours, and never Spam..cause the Mods or blog owners can Ban you.

Can you explain to me what part of SEO blog commenting falls under? It is marketing as well.