SEO Tycoon

**gh05** · 02-22-2010, 07:01 PM

For example...Say I have an article on my site about the laws of cricket with not much mention of the word 'bat' (bad example I know) but the rest of my site is all about sports played with bats. If someone then searches 'cricket bats' would the search engines look at the rest of my site and see that I use the word 'bats' regularly to give this article a higher prominence than it usually word for this search phrase?

**chrishirst** · 02-22-2010, 07:16 PM

keyword "density" is a BS "metric" just ignore it totally.

Write your pages for USERS not some non-existant "value"

**dvduval** · 02-22-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

keyword "density" is a BS "metric" just ignore it totally.

Write your pages for USERS not some non-existant "value"

Almost spilled my drink!

Yea, it sounds like you are writing some copy. If I were you I would see who you know that can look at the copy and the layout and tell you what they think about it. Then you will be well on your way to pleasing real people. Get that right, and the World is yours!

**gh05** · 02-22-2010, 08:16 PM

I do right my pages for users but I have noticed that in webmaster tools there is a section for keywords. If I search for an article on my site I am much more likely to find it in the S.E's if I also combine my search term with the most significant keyword as listed by webaster tools.

So the questions still stands...do the S.E's still look at the amount you sue a kwyword throughout the site? If not, why do I get this result and why is there a section on most significant keywords in Webmaster tools?

Cheers

**eagleshot** · 02-22-2010, 11:17 PM

Chris is right. Make everything look natural. Have good content, and make sure to do tons of keyword research on your competitors.

**edgray** · 05:49 AM

good dofollow SEO needs 7 - 8.273% keyword density at least three times.

**gh05** · 02-23-2010, 08:02 AM

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good dofollow SEO needs 7 - 8.273% keyword density at least three times.

wtf.

come on there must be a simple answer to this. Does the amount you use a word over the whole site contribute to the relevancy of a search?

**chrishirst** · 02-23-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gh05

wtf.

come on there must be a simple answer to this.

There certainly is, it's just that you missed reading it

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

keyword "density" is a BS "metric" just ignore it totally.

Write your pages for USERS not some non-existant "value"

**gh05** · 02-23-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

There certainly is, it's just that you missed reading it

But how can the amount that you use a keyword be completely BS? My pages which happen to use a certain keyword regularly have the highest position in the SERP's. It's not that I have deliberately written it for the search engines, i just had to repeat a phrase a lot on that page and it has done well.

Why does google webmaster tools bother telling us what the most significant keywords on the whole site are if it is not a factor which is used?

**makemoneytips** · 02-23-2010, 08:11 AM

i think both, but generally, keyword density is per page.

**chrishirst** · 02-23-2010, 08:26 AM

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But how can the amount that you use a keyword be completely BS?

THAT is NOT what I posted

**gh05** · 02-23-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

THAT is NOT what I posted

Ok well please forgive my misunderstanding. Can you clarify what you meant.

**chrishirst** · 02-23-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gh05

Why does google webmaster tools bother telling us what the most significant keywords on the whole site are if it is not a factor which is used?

What it is showing is NOT what you assume.

Yes it is showing the words that are on your pages.

And it DOES NOT say they are "most significanct" it states:

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Below are the most common keywords Google found when crawling your site. These should reflect the subject matter of your site.

The may be in order of "significance", which in reality means "appears most often"

There is not a single mention of "density". The only "density" that gets displayed is how dense the "experts" are when they make up their own interpretation.