SEO Tycoon

**seothomas** · 04-20-2010, 03:48 PM

Some how I stumbled across a website (http://seomixed.com) that caught my eye. Well The Page Rank of this site is a PR4 and its only a few months old. As I began to dig deeper I found its a content scrapping site with nothing but duplicate content.

So the more I got into it I found that the owner is some dude in Thailand. Well he has about 100 of these content scrapping sites all interlinking with each other creating one giant link wheel. Pretty interesting. But what gets me is that the same articles and content is posted at each site? And they all have a Page Rank of 4 being less than 6 months old? So when you have about 1000k indexed pages per site all giving out links...you can amass some good page rank.

Now he has adsense on all sites, but its the Page Rank that gets me. Seems pretty basic....but talking with a colleague of mine she says every link carries some bit of Page Rank no matter how minute. Is this a way to build page rank and ultimately transfer it to your main website?

Should I be setting up millions of content scrapping websites with the goal of someday adding real fresh content and trying to rank for keywords?

Color me confused....am I doing SEO the wrong way? Is it really only about backlinks? The more the better! He obviously is not concerned with ranking for keywords...but traffic somehow does find its way to these websites. And adsense money is made (I saw a screen shot).

Should I be buying domains like "2015fordf150.com" and scrapping content so that in 5 years it will be easy to rank for keywords by adding fresh content and optimizing the site. Since it will be over 5 years old with Page Rank,a ton of indexed pages, and backlinks?

**chrishirst** · 04-20-2010, 04:42 PM

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you can amass some good page rank.

There's no such thing.

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Is it really only about backlinks? The more the better!

No it isn't.

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He obviously is not concerned with ranking for keywords..

And quite rightly, nobody should be overly concerned with "ranking"

I'd suggest that Yes! You DO have the wrong idea of SEO

**ThailandForum** · 04-20-2010, 05:43 PM

Actually the concept does work although you wouldn't have them all pointing at each other otherwise it counter balances each other out to a certain degree, also the content would be presented differently to the search engines for each site and variations of content, obviously page rank doesn't mean anything at all, but it works for getting higher serps depending on what is presented at what time to the search engines, we mirror content from the portal of our main domain onto others and quite often they will rank higher for the exact same thing that is on the main domain.

**seothomas** · 04-20-2010, 05:59 PM

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There's no such thing.

No it isn't.

And quite rightly, nobody should be overly concerned with "ranking"

I'd suggest that Yes! You DO have the wrong idea of SEO

No such thing as page rank? Umm my little meter in my tool bar says other wise....

Nobody should be overly concerned with ranking? Really now...then why are millions if not billions spent of trying to rank?

If i do indeed have the wrong idea of SEO then please enlighten me!

Chris you are always the first to put in your 2 cents...but most often its like the US Economy....OVERINFLATED! Booya!

**seothomas** · 04-20-2010, 06:01 PM

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we mirror content from the portal of our main domain onto others and quite often they will rank higher for the exact same thing that is on the main domain.

Why would this be? Shouldn't the weighted main domain always out rank the little mirrored domain? Is the content on the main domain always crawled and indexed first?

**chrishirst** · 04-20-2010, 06:50 PM

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No such thing as page rank? Umm my little meter in my tool bar says other wise...

Odd how people leave a word out here and there to make it appear they may be right.

the phrase was GOOD Page Rank. No amount of Silly Green Bar is GOOD, it is all worthless, no matter how many gullible fools keep chasing it, it will never be worth anything to anyone other than those people, and it will never add anything tangible to a website.

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Really now...then why are millions if not billions spent of trying to rank?

Because they have this stupid belief the "ranking" will somehow bring the "Riches beyond the dreams of avarice".
Have you not read the hundreds of threads where:

"My rankings dropped, why"?
"Why does my position at Google change every day"

etc etc

Since 2003 rankings have been the worst possible way of measuring success.

read this ->
5 Reasons Why Rankings Are A Poor Measure Of Success
http://searchengineland.com/080131-071244.php

**chrishirst** · 04-20-2010, 06:51 PM

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Why would this be?

Because it is.

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Shouldn't the weighted main domain always out rank the little mirrored domain? Is the content on the main domain always crawled and indexed first?

No, no and no.

**seothomas** · 04-20-2010, 07:08 PM

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the phrase was GOOD Page Rank. No amount of Silly Green Bar is GOOD, it is all worthless, no matter how many gullible fools keep chasing it, it will never be worth anything to anyone other than those people, and it will never add anything tangible to a website.

Because they have this stupid belief the "ranking" will somehow bring the "Riches beyond the dreams of avarice".
Have you not read the hundreds of threads where:

Chris you totally crack me up...and your always insult one of my coworkers and she cries to me that you hurt her feelings....hilarious!

I used to not give a poop about page rank but recently I read something from MAtt Cutts that says "the number of pages that we crawl is roughly proportional to your page rank" so now I do believe that there must be some merit to the whole page rank debate!

And of course ranking can bring you riches. If you rank #1 you will sell a heck of alot more used cars/video games/books whatever than if you rank #21! You agree with that?

**ThailandForum** · 04-20-2010, 07:22 PM

I think you missunderstood whatever Matt said, my main domain has just over a million urls, google will vary between 100,000 and 600,000 indexed, page rank stays the same although I havent looked, cnn is a 10, probably about 50 percent or more of it is not indexed at this time.

**ThailandForum** · 04-20-2010, 07:24 PM

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And of course ranking can bring you riches. If you rank #1 you will sell a heck of alot more used cars/video games/books whatever than if you rank #21! You agree with that?

You are confusing yourself, serps and pr are as different as dogs and chickens, both can be eaten but your unlikely to have your pet dog served for Sunday lunch.

**chrishirst** · 04-21-2010, 07:26 PM

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And of course ranking can bring you riches. If you rank #1 you will sell a heck of alot more used cars/video games/books whatever than if you rank #21! You agree with that?

Not necessarily!

ONLY and ONLY if it is the RIGHT phrases your site gets shown for, being first page may bring in more traffic. However, a clickthrough from position #21 could mean the visitor is far more qualified and therefore more likely to lead to a conversion.