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Old 07-27-2010, 12:41 PM Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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This is for blog owners and blog commentators.

The nofollow thing is NOT preventing spam. Make your blog follow blogs. Why? If you make your blogs follow blogs, for those commentators who are actually posting high quality content with a link back to their related site, you are scaring them off. They will not want to comment on your blog. It's only fair that you allow them to link to their website, only if it is related of course.

For commentators. And I hope all the spam bot owners hear me out. STOP SPAMMING. You're only hurting the sites you spam for in the long run. How stupid can you be? Use your name as the name. don't put a website in the website box, just include html code to link to your site with whatever text you want. And if the basic bog etiquette rules apply, the blog owner will accept your link because you contributed with GREAT quality text.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:19 PM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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Link dropping comments at blogs is NOT SEO.

Making USEFUL comments that actually add to the discussion can promote YOU as knowledgeable in that particular subject, just a good forum post with a signature link is good promotion.

The "Gud post", "I am interesting to this", "Tnx fur sharing this usefull infromation" type of comments do no good to anyone, least of all the blog "owner".
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:24 AM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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I agree with chris.
I have made my few blogs do follow, Initially I got few spam comments after then I write a small guideline for commeting like this-

This is dofollow blog, please do not spam. Any link in message body or spam comment will be deleted.
After that spamming reduced.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:27 PM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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It will still be safe to put your blog into a do follow one; but put all the incoming comments into moderation. It might take time to filter spam comment to real comment; but worth a lot.
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:01 AM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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I disagree with chris. If someone wrote a blog about useful photoshop techniques, then there was a comment in the blogs that linked to a REALLY AWESOME tutorial, that is not SEO?

If I was the blog owner and saw a comment that provided a useful link, I would allow that link on my site. How can you call linking from external sites to yours not SEO? That is the DEFINITION of SEO, Chris.

Seems being a moderator here lets you do and say whatever you want and you ban whoever gives useful links to other websites.

Let me support this post by giving you a video from Matt Cutts himself, who talks about no limits to building links to your website, unless you want to ban this account too because linking to another website is not SEO to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnquaBa6DSk

You may be a moderator here, Chris, and you can do or say whatever you want while your here. But outside of this forum, SEO means SEO. It doesn't mean whatever you want it to mean.
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:13 AM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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I disagree with chris. If someone wrote a blog about useful photoshop techniques, then there was a comment in the blogs that linked to a REALLY AWESOME tutorial, that is not SEO? [/url]
It's called adding value or something useful to the conversation.

Nothing to do with SEO, rather sharing of related information
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:43 AM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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Linking is promotion, not seo, whether paid or free.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:16 AM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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Bit of a history lesson here.

The term "Search Engine Optimisation" came about because at the time it was all about making your position in the SERPs "optimal", the Internet was still fairly new to most people and wasn't as well travelled as it is now.
Search engines were new, SE users were not as savvy and "rankings" were stable for at least 3 weeks at a time, and every SE user saw the same results for the search term, and were more inclined to "click" on the "top" results, because they were (in theory) the "best page" for their question to be answered.

Also back then links, and the anchor text of links was a big part of the SE algo, especially for Google.
So yes, ten to fifteen years ago, links where a large part of making your page position "optimal".

However, since then numerous updates and changes have reduced Google's reliance on links and anchor text, Yahoo! has grown up a little and may even become a "player" some day

None of the SEs offer "stable" ranking any more, query results are different for every SE user. Local variations, personalised results, Savvy SE users no longer click on the #1 result every time.
There is no "optimal" position that guarantees sales or traffic anymore, sure, top 5 first page is a better spot than bottom 5 on page 3.

If all you care about is SE traffic, which, of course is totally the wrong strategy. SEO now is not about simply being #1, you now need to be #1 for the RIGHT phrase(s), #1 with a great title and description, #1 in the RIGHT localised engine and of course you absolutely have to have done your promotion well enough to get over the personalised results filters.

Optimising and marketing for Search has changed over the last fifteen years, unfortunately the "experts" have not changed or moved with it.

It never has been "difficult", and it is no more difficult now than it was ten years ago. Certainly there is more pages competing and more so-called optimisers.

But the short sighted, thick skulled experts are all occupied trying to force the SEs to do what they want with their pages instead of simply giving the SEs what they are looking for!

Trying to "bomb" your way to SE success with links is what makes it seem difficult and of course you are only ever bombing ONE page for ONE phrase.

LEARN for goodness sake!
Your "home" page is not everything to your website.
Search engines treat every page on every site as individual. Why don't you?
The first directory owner that sees sense and allows people to link to more than the "home" page might even make money.

Sure, comment on blogs that are in your target marketplace with something ontopic or useful to the discussion, but link to your page that is relevant.

Certainly participate in forums that are related, but at least have signature links that the people are going to be interested in.
Be realistic links to a plastic surgeon in Brazil at a webmaster forum ISN'T going to generate a great deal of interest!

Join Social Networking sites and again link to useful pages with the right anchor text.

Intelligent marketing and picking appropriate targets will get you further than "machine gunning" links into the crowd.
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Old 08-09-2010, 12:31 PM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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Your "home" page is not everything to your website.
That is one of my gripes, how many restaurants use an image of there menu instead of actually typing it into the html page, you got someone looking for kebabs in bournemouth, if it was typed in instead of an image of the whole menu and you had an indian restaurant that does some indian kebabs you stand a chance of a customer or at least being seen, if they don't see you they wont be coming.
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Old 08-09-2010, 12:34 PM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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As for links being seo, that means anybody that pays to have a banner on a site is practising seo? Or are they paying for advertising?
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Old 08-09-2010, 12:57 PM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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As for links being seo, that means anybody that pays to have a banner on a site is practising seo? Or are they paying for advertising?
Hmmm now let me see... duh there's only one answer... advertising
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:02 PM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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Nice historical roundup Chris

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...you now need to be #1 for the RIGHT phrase(s), #1 with a great title and description, #1 in the RIGHT localised engine and of course you absolutely have to have done your promotion well enough to get over the personalised results filters.
...and of course having something useful/infomative/entertaining after they've clicked a link, not some much copied "spun" article on a page full of ads.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:31 PM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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Hmmm now let me see... duh there's only one answer... advertising
Might aswell delete the word document I was doing praising my advertisers on the astuteness of their seo campaign then
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Old 08-09-2010, 02:07 PM Re: Make the Blogging World a Happy Place for SEO
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^ he he, or maybe just reword it a bit
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