SEO Tycoon

**hertscleaning** · 07:23 PM

Could anyone tell me which is the best way to build links to my site by keywords and how is the process? I know forums is a way...but other?

**Digital Friend** · 07-17-2011, 10:23 PM

This from this thread by Paul :

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Originally Posted by willcode4beer

The problem is, you are creating the backlinks. A more efficient use of your time would be creating things that other people want to link to.

When other people chose to link to your site, you get organic traffic. The traffic will be high quality because people coming in will have some context and know why they are visiting.

Also, you won't be so dependent upon search engines. Though, the search indexes will rank you higher anyway. For proof, look at all of the folks who recommend time wasters like blog/forum posting, article sites, directories, etc... They work at it constantly, they make the web a worse place; yet, receive very little traffic, and of that, very little quality traffic.

**hertscleaning** · 07-18-2011, 03:36 AM

willcode4beer
Would you mind to suggest some things or some ideas that other people want to link to, if you do not mind. Just to google it will take time.

**Jim Gillum** · 07-18-2011, 03:57 AM

You can build links by forum posts, directory listings, blog posts......etc...

I believe what willcode4beer is getting at is the real method to establish a solid long term site...
Great content that people want to read and like to, to share with others...
Or some other......people attractant "stuff"....

All you ever read is link . link. link......
One link is all you need to attract Google....

Live by the engines...die by the engines.......
And that can and has recently happened to many sites...

**willcode4beer** · 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hertscleaning

willcode4beer
Would you mind to suggest some things or some ideas that other people want to link to, if you do not mind. Just to google it will take time.

Really?

Ok, just think for a minute. Start with yourself. What do you like to read online? What kind of things interest you?

Write about the things you know.

If you are really stumped for ideas, go to some of the sites you like to read, your favorite blogs, social networks, whatever.
Write a response to something on your own blog with your own ideas. Many blogs support trackback so, the authors you are responding to can see your post.

The web is a community and a conversation. Do a search for the "Cluetrain Manifesto" and give it a read.

I guess I should backup my statement with some data:

**Alaister** · 07-18-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hertscleaning

willcode4beer
Would you mind to suggest some things or some ideas that other people want to link to, if you do not mind. Just to google it will take time.

ahhh but searching on Google is part of the fun lol.
Anyway I'll give you some tips and ideas around creating content people would love to link to.

The first step is to put yourself in the shoes of a visitor or reader. Ask yourself the question - What would make me want to share something?

Is it informative, interesting, funny, aesthetically pleasing?

what you want to create is what people in the SEO industry call Linkbait.

Link bait (or linkbait) refers to anything on a website that encourages links from other websites. It can include content, online tools, downloads, or anything else that another site owner might find compelling enough to link to. Link bait is important because most search engines use backlinks as a major factor in determining ranking. via Web1Marketing Glossary

Here are some examples of different types of link bait:

* Infographics - Display information with graphics in a visually appealing manner. This will encourage links, shares and tweets
* Videos - Create a somewhat viral video that people will want to share and link to
* Authoritative Content - Create content that is perceive to be reputable and authoritative. An example of this would be wikipedia. Tehy receive so many links from different websites. Another example would be the site I got he "link bait" definition from. As you can see I linked to the definition.

I actually wrote an article about effective link building through clever content creation

Hope this helps!

**hertscleaning** · 07-20-2011, 11:10 AM

Thanks folks. I know I should not be so lazy

. I'll start to create blogs with good content and maybe results will come...but having 2 little baby daughters, work, etc..time is very counted.

**chrishirst** · 07-21-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alaister

ahhh but searching on Google is part of the fun lol.
Anyway I'll give you some tips and ideas around creating content people would love to link to.

The first step is to put yourself in the shoes of a visitor or reader. Ask yourself the question - What would make me want to share something?

Is it informative, interesting, funny, aesthetically pleasing?

THIS is exactly the step that most people get wrong.

YOU are your own target audience if you are writing something that you, yourself are interested in.

Write as if you are telling yourself about the subject, forget search engines they are not actually interested in what you say, what SEs want is for their USERS to find it valuable. YOU are a search engine user, so write for YOU.

**vangogh** · 07-21-2011, 01:04 PM

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YOU are your own target audience

Yes and no. I generally agree with what you said and your advice is clearly good advice, however…

Say you're an expert on a subject. You're an advanced user, but you're creating content for beginner's on the subject. You really aren't your target audience in that case. Words you would use and specific topics you're interested in probably aren't the same ones you're audience uses and is interested in.

I do agree with what you're saying, but think there's more nuances to it.

**Jim Gillum** · 11:13 PM

Agree with Chris...a little shaky....with Vangogh..(BTW...liked your paintings)

The trick to the whole thing is to put yourself into a totally objecive mindset....

Think like your target and ignore "what" you know....
Then answer your prospects needs...

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In a writing tone that matches their experience level.....
which may include "talking down"...without being obvious...

Demographic research on the majority of your target group is valuable....

**chrishirst** · 07-21-2011, 07:29 PM

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Say you're an expert on a subject. You're an advanced user,

True, but you don't get to be that advanced or "expert" without having read and studied the basics, the intermediate levels and the advanced levels, so you should be aware of what you needed to know when starting out, and if you can "dumb it down" without being patronising, you should be able to be informative at all levels.

**vangogh** · 03:21 PM

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you don't get to be that advanced or "expert" without having read and studied the basics

True, but many people once they reach an advanced level forget what it was like to be a beginner. They often use words they picked up at the intermediate level that would be unknown to beginners or they skip that one key step in a tutorial, because they forgot it's not obvious to everyone.

To give you an example of the latter I wrote a post a few years back on creating a simple navigation bar. I walk though the html and css and at the end of the post present both together. Over the years many people have commented or emailed me that they couldn't get it to work and usually it's because they copied and pasted both css and html into the same place.

To me it was obvious that you put the html code in between body tags and place the css in an external file or in the head of the document. And because it was so obvious I never mentioned it in the post. I assumed everyone reading would know. Clearly a good number of them didn't know.

I agree that you can write for beginners as an advanced users, but then you're not writing for yourself anymore. You're not looking at yourself as your target audience.

**chrishirst** · 07-22-2011, 12:26 PM

Yep but it seems to be a far more common thing with a lot of people who think they don't actually need to learn the basics.

Bit like programmers who think they don't need to work out what their application is going to do and the steps needed to get there in the form of a flow chart or a top-down plan.

**spa3212** · 07-25-2011, 08:49 AM

Forum posting is my first choice as does not only gives you rank but also traffic in done in right way. but this is also true that you must not stick to only one way of link building.

**willcode4beer** · 07-25-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spa3212

Forum posting is my first choice as does not only gives you rank but also traffic in done in right way. but this is also true that you must not stick to only one way of link building.

Are we to take this to mean you are only here to spam the forum?

**hertscleaning** · 09-22-2011, 07:23 AM

Thanks folks...lots of useful information...my SEO knowledge improved since...more open now.

**chrishirst** · 09-22-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hertscleaning

Thanks folks...lots of useful information...my SEO knowledge improved since...more open now.

That's unfortunate, given that links are NOT optimisation.

**joydanny** · 09-23-2011, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hertscleaning

Could anyone tell me which is the best way to build links to my site by keywords and how is the process? I know forums is a way...but other?

There are many techniques of link building like social bookmarking, blog posting, blog commenting, article submission, forum posting, press release etc.