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**jim25** · 07-29-2011, 10:04 AM

Hi Guys

I'm trying to get our keyword density to around 3% for our landing pages, but Im having trouble. What is the safe amount of times I can use a kw without it looking like spam. I don't really like going above 7-10 but even with that my density is only at 1.5%

Any ideas?

**Digital Friend** · 07-29-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jim25

What is the safe amount of times I can use a kw without it looking like spam.

Read it, then tell us if it looks like spam or not. Don't write for search engines, write for your readers,

Looking at your keyword density is a waste of time. Instead, read it and make sure the content actually makes sense.

**vangogh** · 07-29-2011, 03:46 PM

The time it took you to write your post is more time than you should spend worrying about keyword density. Like Marc said just write for your readers. Don't count words looking for some ideal density.

**chrishirst** · 07:11 AM

How many times would you use a word if you were giving speech to people about a topic?

**barrywheeler** · 07-29-2011, 10:57 PM

If it seems "unnatural" to read, then chances are you have too high a keyword density.

Write it, put it aside, and go back and re-read it.

If it sounds good, go with it. Have someone else read it as well, get their opinion.

**rtucker** · 07-30-2011, 01:36 AM

Put yourself in your reader's shoes, read your content, then go judge for yourself. At best, it'd be better to ask for the opinion of an SEO writer, since they're the one most experienced with this.

**chrishirst** · 07-30-2011, 09:18 AM

word density has never been a metric that any search engine used. In the early days of search the frequency of any word was a large factor. This is why hidden text filled with the keywords or alt attribute "keyword stuffing" was successful.
For Alta Vista in the late 1990s, HTML comments stuffed with keywords was a trick that worked rather well.

Today's search engines are more sophiscated and are not that easily fooled.

Key word FREQUENCY is a vital part of the content for human beings as it reinforces the message you are trying to get across, but it needs to "read well" so the visitor is not put off by it.

**chrishirst** · 07-31-2011, 05:38 AM

http://success.hubspot.com/content-l...tter-In-Google

Fast Forward to 23m 10s

make sure you watch it all as well though.

**barrywheeler** · 07-31-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Key word FREQUENCY is a vital part of the content for human beings as it reinforces the message you are trying to get across, but it needs to "read well" so the visitor is not put off by it.

Isn't this just splitting hairs?

**chrishirst** · 07-31-2011, 07:09 PM

Nope! Frequency and density are two different measurements.

so called keyword density is a ratio. of (word frequency/total words) * 100

Frequency is the sum of a particular word instances.

**jim25** · 08-01-2011, 04:13 AM

Thanks for all the replies, I understand content has to read well and make sense, which is more important than any metric, its just when your pages start to fall in serps you have to explore all avenues.

**musicbid** · 08-04-2011, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Digital Friend

Read it, then tell us if it looks like spam or not. Don't write for search engines, write for your readers,

Looking at your keyword density is a waste of time. Instead, read it and make sure the content actually makes sense.

Yes Very true. If we write for users then there is no chance for it to be spam. Google and search engines' algorithm is designed in such a way that it helps for the genuine and targeted posts. Only people who are SEO ing makes it difficult to find genuine post. So if your posts are genuine in natural way, no need for worrying for Keywords density as Digital Friend says.

**chrishirst** · 08-04-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jim25

Thanks for all the replies, I understand content has to read well and make sense, which is more important than any metric, its just when your pages start to fall in serps you have to explore all avenues.

Forget about "falling SERPs" when VISITORS from search start falling start looking for problems.

Piddling about because the rankings YOU see has changed is asking for trouble.

**jelebiby** · 04-23-2012, 04:34 AM

Please try to follow the formula -
(Nkr * Nwp / Tkn) * 100,
Where,
NKR = how many times you repeated a specific keyword
Nwp= Nwp is the number of words in the phrase
Tkn = the total words in the analyzed text

**chrishirst** · 04-23-2012, 04:44 AM

Keyword "density" does NOT exist as a SEO "metric" and it NEVER, EVER HAS!!!

**vangogh** · 04-23-2012, 03:55 PM

And even if it did your formula has nothing to do with the original question posted close to a year ago. Your formula is telling people how to calculate keyword density, which was never an issue.

**chrishirst** · 04-25-2012, 12:36 PM

Member_Density = 1/(Useful_Posts/Total_posts * 100)

**SEOGlen** · 05-18-2012, 04:37 AM

Don't be too overly concerned about search engines as you have to create your websites for users too. Put yourself in the users' shoes and see if you would want to see overly stuffed landing page with your keywords. Use your content to add some keywords but you always have to keep it to a very low level because stuffing wouldn't help you much.

**anythingnet** · 05-18-2012, 07:43 AM

Really you are right. Keyword density is a great concept to optimized a webpage or website. Thank you very much for good information.

**rohitpendharkar** · 05-18-2012, 08:14 AM

Well this is really crucial and big issue to deal with. The google new updates had great impact and may be the reason to considering the onpage keyword density for the pages. You can keep it 3% but put your keyword in a such way that it should not look like spam.