SEO Tycoon

**brianman** · 08-16-2011, 12:52 AM

Ok guys. Here's one for you. I have a client that wants ( demands ) that I put every keyword we're targeting into his meta tags on every page. I'm trying to explain how meta tags work. But, I'm struggling to find proof or an article that accurately explains why we need meta tags.

I know that I have sites on page one for Google that don't even have meta tags. So, I know you don't need them to be on page one. I also know that you do need them to at least give Google a guide as to what to present in the SERP ( ie: description ).

Any thoughts and/or resources from you all would be great. Thanks!

**rolda hayes** · 08-16-2011, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jonathancole

If we will all our keyword on all pages meta tag will be duplicate and is not preferred.

Rubbish.....

Try this instead....

**bigcat1967** · 08-16-2011, 02:32 PM

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Ok guys. Here's one for you. I have a client that wants ( demands ) that I put every keyword we're targeting into his meta tags on every page. I'm trying to explain how meta tags work. But, I'm struggling to find proof or an article that accurately explains why we need meta tags.

So you have to fight with clients as well? Yep - me too.

The last little fight I had was about keywords. However, w/ meta tags, pick your battles...this is not the one to fight. Just put the KWs in - not worth the fight...

meta tags don't matter anyway...

**johnmiller48** · 08-17-2011, 04:29 AM

Yes, meta tags are not considered by Google for the simple reason that people use it for spamming. However, adding a meta tags is not going to have any negative effect on your website since google just ignores it. However, adding valuable meta tags will be considered by other Search engines.

**usearchme** · 08-17-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bigcat1967

So you have to fight with clients as well? Yep - me too.

The last little fight I had was about keywords. However, w/ meta tags, pick your battles...this is not the one to fight. Just put the KWs in - not worth the fight...

meta tags don't matter anyway...

I agree pick your battles, and even if they have very little use in SEO nowadays, since hes ur client i would be inclined to do what he asks, if he is afterall paying you for your services.

If it keeps him happy why not do it anyway ?

Woc

**wayfarer07** · 08-17-2011, 10:23 AM

My philosophy is, do it if they are insisting, because it's not worth fighting over something so trivial, but I don't mince my words, I tell them that by doing so we will be accomplishing nothing.

**evoDerma** · 08-17-2011, 10:28 AM

meta description and title - all you need there. Meta keywords - you should google for it, there are many posts out there announcing that meta keywords are not important and even are useless now

**chrishirst** · 08-17-2011, 10:40 AM

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useless now

"Now" being the past EIGHT years OR SO!!!

**Atcomaart** · 08-19-2011, 08:16 AM

Generally Meta elements are HTML or XHTML elements used to provide structured metadata about a Web page. Meta tag is most important part for our website.

**chrishirst** · 08-19-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Atcomaart

Generally Meta elements are HTML or XHTML elements used to provide structured metadata about a Web page. Meta tag is most important part for our website.

Could it be that you failed to read, couldn't be bothered reading or didn't actually understand the previous posts???

**wayfarer07** · 08-19-2011, 01:37 PM

Has everyone been learning from the book "meta tags for dummies" or something?

**chrishirst** · 08-19-2011, 02:37 PM

More like:

Code:

<script type="text/javascript">
var book="Meta tags for dummies";

function read(val) {
 return(val.replace(/meta tags for/i,""));
}
document.write(read(book));
</script>

**warrencreative** · 09-13-2011, 05:01 PM

At one point in time the keywords tag had an impact on a web site’s position within the Search Engine Results Pages (SERPS). Now the keywords tag has little impact on where a site will appear in the search results. When search engine first started determining the relevancy of a site they placed a larger emphasis on these tags.

**rickstan** · 09-13-2011, 06:32 PM

They are pretty useless nowadays from what I can tell from personal experience. Though they are not difficult to put in the site, and if it makes your client happy - go for it! Though there are only so many you want to include with each page. Make sure in-text and titles match up, as well as alt-tags on images. Though on-site optimization is fairly easy and doesn't take much. The link building is what most SEOs fall short on, and is the most tedious thing to keep up with!

**vultren** · 09-13-2011, 09:08 PM

Who cares? Just add them. The time it takes you to add such a simple code like a meta tag would be faster than it would take trying to prove to your idiot client that they do nothing.

**chrishirst** · 09-14-2011, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gucciloveme

In fact, a website for the MATE label is still very important, if you do not tag, your site will rank in Google's home page, but you have one, relatively speaking, more sound your site, ranking the Google to go home may be more easy.

I wonder if that made any sense before it was mangled into Indlish???

because it certainly doesn't afterwards!!!

**wayfarer07** · 09-15-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkerton-baby

people like to do business with other people that make them feel clever and informed, instead of dumb or stupid

I never tell people what they want to do is stupid. However, I find that clients will trust me a lot more if I tell them the truth, even if that truth is critical of their ideas. After all, I'm being hired to be critical of their ideas, I'm the expert not them. So I don't lie to make them feel better, that's not the way I do business.

**chrishirst** · 09-15-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer07

I never tell people what they want to do is stupid. However, I find that clients will trust me a lot more if I tell them the truth, even if that truth is critical of their ideas. After all, I'm being hired to be critical of their ideas, I'm the expert not them. So I don't lie to make them feel better, that's not the way I do business.

Exactly!
I do not understand when people post, "The client is telling me to [insert time wasting myth]"

My question to clients who were telling me what to do was "if you know so much, why are you paying me"?

**leway** · 09-22-2011, 06:58 AM

Tell them what you think and if they insist do it.

**chrishirst** · 09-23-2011, 01:29 PM

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All I meant was that not all of the guys on the forum has been in business for as long as you, and maybe they don't yet have the self-confidence to call themselves experts yet.

Yep sure, BUT to even be in the position of having a client or two, you must have pitched themselves as competent in whatever field it is, therefore to simply accept and do what ever it is the client is "insisting" upon does them AND YOURSELF a disservice.
When it fails to produce results you are then in the position of being screwed from both ends.

You say "It's not my fault, because you insisted that it is done".

The client says "You should have told me it was useless"!

And YOU have lost on both counts, so it's goodbye client(s), goodbye credibility, goodbye any payment that are due.

YOU are supposed to be running YOUR business not your clients dictating what you do and how you should do it.