SEO Tycoon

**seoprocon** · 08-30-2011, 05:36 AM

Many seo tools come with so-called SEO reports summing up the data collected by the software.

Most of them (at least mine in seopowersuite) look pretty nice but from a webmaster perspective, is SEO advice in such reports any useful for my particular site?

I mean how is a computer program in a position to tell me what's better for my site's SEO? Do I trust that type of advice?

**chrishirst** · 08-30-2011, 08:55 AM

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I mean how is a computer program in a position to tell me what's better for my site's SEO? Do I trust that type of advice?

It isn't and No!

http://tycoontalk.freelancer.com/seo...ally-work.html

**vultren** · 08-31-2011, 02:33 AM

They are just as useful as those websites in which they tell you how much your website is worth.

**ryangetty** · 08-31-2011, 03:17 AM

In short & simple They are not useful.

**skyinfo** · 09-01-2011, 07:16 AM

Do not use any software for generating reports, they do not give accurate report worthless...

**Sierra Charlie** · 09-06-2011, 03:24 AM

If you want to track errors and such like, yeah probably a software might do the trick. But actual SEO is an art+science. Don't think a software can help.

**kangana007** · 09-12-2011, 05:19 AM

I wouldn't say "don't trust SEO reports at all". Of course, one should take them with a grain of salt, but they can be useful at times, to newbies, for example.
I use my SEO experience and knowledge while making decisions, but I still sometimes look at reports and recommendations, they can be helpful or just save me time.

**seoprocon** · 09-12-2011, 05:21 AM

thanks everyone for sharing, I will be careful with the reports but you guys scare me a bit with your answers - I do find software helpful doing certain things for me - so stopping to use it entirely and switch to manual seo work sounds counterproductive or am i missing something

**dillon015** · 09-13-2011, 05:08 AM

I don't know more about it

**rypher21** · 09-14-2011, 11:40 PM

dont just rely on reports, they act as basis but not 100% accurate...

**sisate** · 09-21-2011, 03:19 AM

My experience -
I have checked my websites backlinks trough different websites. I got three different results. No result is matching with the Google Webmaster Tools.

**webdevs** · 10-01-2011, 08:27 PM

Depends what you're using them for I think and your level of experience.

If you are using them to analyse on-page factors of a site and you are new to the game then they could be helpful, but I wouldn't rest on that information alone and one should always be improving their knowledge base.

If you are using them for ranking reports I have found the ones I've used to be inaccurate as they do not decipher between organic and places listings very well, along with any image or video results, so you need to double check the numbers.

**joydanny** · 10-05-2011, 06:29 AM

Doing bulk is not a good SEO So i want to say that manual SEO is great and everyone should SEO manually if he/she wants to get better results.

**seoprocon** · 10-10-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by webdevs

Depends what you're using them for I think and your level of experience.....

....If you are using them for ranking reports I have found the ones I've used to be inaccurate as they do not decipher between organic and places listings very well, along with any image or video results, so you need to double check the numbers.

not all ranking tools are that way though in regards to universal search listings - rank tracker from seo powersuite distinguishes web search listings from images, videos, places and other things ... so in that regard accuracy is not an issue. i guess another reason why some tools are inaccurate is because some developers don't bother with search engine updates - hence you get tools that are completely out of touch with reality. now those tools I do stay away from.

but despite all the negativity here and lobbying for hand made seo, i think its quite unreal to do volumes of search data processing by hand. or do people advocating for manual seo mean that they use free tools or services that they don't have to download

**seoProAndCon** · 10-10-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by seoprocon

but despite all the negativity here and lobbying for hand made seo, i think its quite unreal to do volumes of search data processing by hand. or do people advocating for manual seo mean that they use free tools or services that they don't have to download

Welcome to the SEO world, @seoprocon

You know, most of the people posting in this thread either haven't even tried to promote anything, or I bet they didn't have any success with that. A lot of people all over SEO forums keep screaming "use you brain!!!" and "do everything manually!!!" (yes, exclamation points are compulsory for them

), but usually they do not even understand the basics - like, say, @sisate who "have checked my websites backlinks" and "No result is matching with the Google" (LOL, man, go read how web crawlers work... Or even better, check your backlinks through Bing Webmaster Center and say it's not a search engine (or a poor search engine) 'cause the result won't be matching with the Google's ROFL)

Here're my 2 cents:

1) SEO software does help! period.
One simply cannot process such volumes of data he/she needs to achieve high rankings for a competitive keyphrase.

2) Choose the software properly. SEO Powersuite you mentioned is really good at fetching and analyzing data (actually this is one of their unique points - they say they deliver the most accurate and up-to-date data, and proved that many times in different third-party contests, reviews and comparisons). I personally also prefer Powersuite, thought I tried a lot of other tools.

3) As for reports... (finally

) They do help as well.
Just as some smarter guys said earlier in this thread, SEO reports cannot cover every SEO aspect, but I swear if they could see at least one good automatically generated reports, they'd learn A LOT about their websites and would get their rankings much higher.

I bet (what about real $100, guys?) with anyone above in this thread that he/she cannot find all the info that, for example, Website Auditor's report shows them in 20 seconds. Plus, all that info is actually usefull and will help to improve this or that aspect of SEO. So, who's willing to take on my bet, you, self-proclaimed SEO gurus?

PS: sorry for being a bit harsh, sometimes I lose my temper when I see such threads

Nothing personal, guys

Good luck in promoting your websites

**seoprocon** · 07:35 AM

@seoProAndCon (a pun on my name?

) THANK YOU! what a refreshingly logical and smart response... i've noticed the same exact thing - you ask about seo tools and a bunch of people say "no this s%^t doesn't work" and give NO facts, NO explanations, NO clarification on what is meant by a mysterious concept of "manual SEO"

came back to add more to this: another alternative answer to SEO tools is: "oh yes Noble Warrior tools (making the name up) are best try them wink wink lol" and again - no explanations.

Really - neither of this is helpful. One hates tools and doesn't bother to justify this, another says oh I love this Noble Warrior tool - and again - no facts to substantiate the statement. Pure love or hate - emotions, not facts...

**ryangetty** · 10-11-2011, 05:48 AM

They are not 100% accurate and not 100% rubbish, you can always refer them for more SEO knowledge if you think its good you can use them, that's what I do.

**devsat** · 10-20-2011, 01:57 AM

hi,
Each SEO tools are producing different results. So I can't fully depend on their SEO reports.

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**jadi007** · 12-22-2011, 11:46 AM

its totally depends on the way you are going to utilized seo techniques there are so many cases where seo reports are very benifical but in some cases there is no need for SEO reports