SEO Tycoon

**krishacetravison** · 11-23-2011, 10:08 AM

Hi folks!

I'm sorry if this is kind a super noob question...Does PR really affects a site's ranking in SERP?

For example, if I build links with high PR (PR6 for example) to a page targeting exact keywords, would it bring that particular page on top of SERP? or maybe get a good SERP ranking?

Please give a light to it...And if you have additional information about PR, (technical) it would be gratefully appreciated..

Thanks guys!

**chrishirst** · 12:09 PM

Real PR (the one you don't know or see) has a small effect when other factors are equal

HOWEVER the SGB PR, which is the one you can see has ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER!!!!!

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For example, if I build links with high PR (PR6 for example) to a page targeting exact keywords, would it bring that particular page on top of SERP? or maybe get a good SERP ranking?

No!!

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Please give a light to it...And if you have additional information about PR, (technical) it would be gratefully appreciated..

http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html

**chrishirst** · 11-23-2011, 12:08 PM

Oh and only Google have "PageRank"

**krishacetravison** · 11-23-2011, 01:16 PM

Thanks again Chris! So that means those who sells the so-called "high PR links" are just messing around?

**chrishirst** · 11-23-2011, 04:29 PM

No they are not messing around, they are serious about wanting to part you from your money.

It's just that you will get nothing for it.

It's akin to that idyllic sounding plot of land (real estate) on Mangrove View in Florida.
The pictures look nice and the description of the area is delightful, until you find that it is home to several aligators once you have paid for it.

**ascotech** · 11-24-2011, 12:58 AM

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So that means those who sells the so-called "high PR links" are just messing around?

you should read this article to get idea what pr is all about
http://www.amray.com/blog/?p=62

**chrishirst** · 11-24-2011, 08:56 AM

Well that was really urmmm? "helpful"

**krishacetravison** · 11-24-2011, 09:55 AM

Another question Chris..Majority of the SEOs today are so fond of link building (to be honest so am I). And I have read a post from a Forum that blasting your site with thousands of backlinks will hurt your site...Excuse me if I ask this question foolishly despite the fact that I know that you don't believe in backlink myths.

But I want to get clear of this one. So is this true? Another question is, if backlinks have nothing to do with SEO, or if it is not optimization, then what's the right way of optimizing a site?

Am I really wasting my time in building links? If yes, should I stop it? What should I do If I totally stop building links to my site?

I would really appreciate your answer Chris!

**mojojojo333** · 11-24-2011, 12:29 PM

As far as I know - PR is considered "dead" for the past 18 months...

**ascotech** · 02:25 PM

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I have read a post from a Forum that blasting your site with thousands of backlinks will hurt your site....

what if some dipstick competitor spread around links from porn sites to your site to kill you?
do you really believe that google's staff too naive to know what is going on and will kick your *ss?
not to mention that who has been linking to your site has nothing to do with your serp, content does.

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if backlinks have nothing to do with SEO, or if it is not optimization, then what's the right way of optimizing a site?

content content content

backlinks = pr
content = serp

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Am I really wasting my time in building links?

yes, you do

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If yes, should I stop it?

yes, you should

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What should I do If I totally stop building links to my site?

make sure content of your site is so good that people would happily link to your site.

**ascotech** · 11-24-2011, 02:29 PM

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As far as I know - PR is considered "dead" for the past 18 months...

you mean the time when you were born?

**chrishirst** · 11-24-2011, 03:50 PM

"SEOs" have always been "fond" of building links though search engines have never been as link orientated as SEOs think.

Yes you can "bomb" one page to the first page of Google results for a low competition phrase but you need tens of thousands of links with the same anchor text, because it is the ANCHOR TEXT NOT the links that count not the link itself.

No getting thousands of links won't "hurt", if it did why would thousands of so called SEOs carry on getting links? They probably don't "help" either.

Links are for getting TRAFFIC.
Links are for getting SALES.
Links are for advertising where your pages are and what they provide.

Links are PROMOTION

Sure you could chase after links for ranking for ever and still not have enough to get what you think you should have.

**krishacetravison** · 11-24-2011, 04:54 PM

To Chris and ascotech:

Thank you very much guys!

**vultren** · 11-25-2011, 08:56 PM

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No getting thousands of links won't "hurt"

Maybe you can elaborate on that more? I for some reason am not finding that true to the full extent.

What if Google was to ban you because you hired 500 chinese to spam across the internet with your link in it? I would consider that hurtful.

**chrishirst** · 11-26-2011, 08:55 AM

What if your "competitor" hired 500 "data entry workers" to link drop your pages all over the Internet?

**schwaman** · 11-30-2011, 02:24 AM

PR is just like the fame of your site, it can not affect the traffic and quality of your site directly.

**vultren** · 11-30-2011, 07:04 PM

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What if your "competitor" hired 500 "data entry workers" to link drop your pages all over the Internet?

Why would your competitor do something to help you if having links everywhere was a good thing?

**chrishirst** · 12-01-2011, 06:56 AM

"Google" does not "know" who hired those Chinese workers. Should your pages be given a penalty/ban because it might have been you??

**spa3212** · 12-02-2011, 12:36 PM

I think instead of PR of a web page it is more valuable to consider the number of OBL the website or webpage have if the page have only 1 or 2 and even the page is only 2 it will have more worth then a pr 6 website with OBL of 10 to 15.

**chrishirst** · 12-02-2011, 03:39 PM

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I think instead of PR of a web page it is more valuable to consider the number of OBL the website or webpage have if the page have only 1 or 2 and even the page is only 2 it will have more worth then a pr 6 website with OBL of 10 to 15.

And you would be wrong!