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**blairtro** · 12-12-2006, 11:16 AM

No ONE on EARTH has been able to come up with a solution with my problem!

Can you?

Background: My website is in a "shared" Windows hosting environment so I don't have access to the IIS "control panel". My website consists of web pages with the .html extension.

Problem: I want to use Server Side Includes (SSI). This only works if my files have the .shtml extension.

Sooo....It's not as simple as renaming all my files because then I lose everything indexed by Google and other search engines.

Soooo. the idea is I duplicate all my files so they have .shtml extension and I put some sort of 301 redirect in my original .html files.

This is the problem! No one out there in the webworld can tell me how to do a 301 redirect to my new .shtml pages! Javascript won't do it! I can't use htaccess, asp, php or anything else!

Any solutions out there??????

Thanx in advance!

Blair

**vangogh** · 12-12-2006, 01:06 PM

The simple answer is you need to switch hosts.

On an IIS server you obviously can't use any of the Apache methods for making the change like .htaccess.

So you need to either make the changes on the server itself or use a scripting language. I can understand your host not allowing access to the server, but if they don't provide the ability to use scripting languages then you should find a host that does.

**blairtro** · 12-12-2006, 04:21 PM

I can't make the changes on the server because I'm in a Windows "shared" hosting environment. The way I understand it is they can't make the changes because it will affect all the other websites on that server..

/Blair

**vangogh** · 02:00 AM

I can understand not being able to change the server. I would do the same thing as your web host. But they should provide scripting languages. I would think at least asp and asp.net since it's a Windows server, but they could also offer php.

If they don't offer the scripting languages then you really should find a new web host or at least a better hosting plan with the same web host, because the plan you have now is too limiting.

If on the other hand you the scripting languages are installed (which I would think they are) then there are ways you can set up the 301 redirect with the code.

My guess is the server allows for asp or .net programming. I don't program in either myself, but I came across this page sometime ago about 301 redirects on an IIS server. There's information about setting up the redirect on the server or using asp.net code.

There may be a better way than what the link above shows, but I'm not a .net coder. I know things from the Apache, php side.

**ADAM Web Design** · 12-12-2006, 05:08 PM

blairtro: the reasons you can't find the solution are because 1) it's not a common problem; 2) it combines two almost mutually exclusive items in our world(programming and SEO); and 3) because the few people (like me) who do know how to do exactly what you want wouldn't tell you because it's the kind of knowledge that is highly valuable.

I won't tell you the answer, but I'll be a nice guy and I'll get you started. THIS ISN'T TOTALLY ACCURATE (you'll have to replace the Response.Redirects with proper 301 redirects), but you can at least get something to work with.

http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/123000-1.shtml

If you can figure out what to do from there, you my friend are a programmer. If you can't, then you need to become one with your ASP and hear the grasshopper at your feet.

**vangogh** · 12-12-2006, 05:42 PM

Cool lnk Adam. One of these days I'll have to learn asp and .net so I too can be the grasshopper that surpasses the master.

**blairtro** · 12-12-2006, 05:44 PM

"because the few people (like me) who do know how to do exactly what you want wouldn't tell you because it's the kind of knowledge that is highly valuable"

How do u get thru doorways? Your head must be so BIG your soooo full of yourself...

/Blair

**blairtro** · 12-12-2006, 05:48 PM

Oh yeah, btw. What didn't you understand when I said I didn't have access to the IIS console????

/Blair

**chrishirst** · 12-13-2006, 03:13 AM

Quote:

The way I understand it is they can't make the changes because it will affect all the other websites on that server..

Actually that's BS from another "I can't be bothered" host

Any changes to application mappings (which is what needs to be changed) can be done on a site by site basis so no other site on the server would be affected.

Their next excuses will be;
it's a security risk.
It puts extra load on the server

Both of which are wrong.

Time to move hosts I think.

1/ you can't 301 redirect .shtm(l) or .htm(l) pages from on the page

what you need is for your host (if they can manage to work out how or you can't point them to http://www.candsdesign.co.uk/article...tion-mappings/ ) to have .htm(l) parsed via the .asp interpreter. Then you can use includes and/or asp code on them.
It's very simple, does NOT pose a security risk and does not add any more load on the server than having .asp pages does.