SEO Tycoon

**kenang82** · 04-06-2007, 01:44 AM

My site www.emedinews.com is indexed by google but when I type the keywords appear in my meta tag title, keywords and description, the site is not found in the fisrt few search page. Why is this so? How to optimise my meta tag?

**cbeaudin** · 04-06-2007, 04:59 AM

There is an article about optimizing your site for google specifically here:
http://websearch.about.com/od/keywor...google_seo.htm

Also, i could be wrong, but i think google ranks result partly by site traffic. So if your site doesnt get that much traffic to begin with, it may take a while to get a higher ranking.

**moondog** · 04-06-2007, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kenang82

My site www.emedinews.com is indexed by google but when I type the keywords appear in my meta tag title, keywords and description, the site is not found in the fisrt few search page. Why is this so? How to optimise my meta tag?

Meta tags are only a part of SEO field. Take care about content, headings, ALT images, links pointing to Your site, keyword density, etc.....

**HowLong** · 04-06-2007, 07:09 AM

Use ranks.nl to analise keyword dencity

**kenang82** · 04-06-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HowLong

Use ranks.nl to analise keyword dencity

what's the use of knowing key word density?

**kenang82** · 04-06-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by moondog

Meta tags are only a part of SEO field. Take care about content, headings, ALT images, links pointing to Your site, keyword density, etc.....

what is ALT image?

**gringo** · 04-06-2007, 01:35 PM

A little reading is in order: http://www.seomoz.org/article/beginn...e-optimization

**ForrestCroce** · 04-06-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cbeaudin

Also, i could be wrong, but i think google ranks result partly by site traffic. So if your site doesnt get that much traffic to begin with, it may take a while to get a higher ranking.

The search engines don't really know how much traffic each site gets, and they aren't interested in grandfathering a few sites and sending traffic on the basis of how much traffic a site gets. They want to find high quality content to answer peoples' questions so people will use that search engine and they can sell ad space.

Where you come out in the rankings is determined by a number of factors: mostly how the text being searched for appears on and "off" you page and how many links point to you around the web, ideally with
very similar text. That's why you see links, but not URLs, in peoples' signatures.

Also make sure you're using titles and heading tags appropriately.

**j03** · 04-06-2007, 11:33 PM

Excuse you, META KEYWORDS no longer are used by google! The main "meta-tag" you need is "description" , which is still universally used by google, yahoo, and others.

You also need to consider your alternate text like <img src="image.gif" alt="image info" /> .

Good luck.

**kenang82** · 04-07-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by j03

Excuse you, META KEYWORDS no longer are used by google! The main "meta-tag" you need is "description" , which is still universally used by google, yahoo, and others.

You also need to consider your alternate text like <img src="image.gif" alt="image info" /> .

Good luck.

What makes a good description?

**ADAM Web Design** · 04-07-2007, 07:32 PM

Something that's readable by both humans and search engines.

You also have much deeper issues with your site in terms of indexing and crawlability.

For starters, you've got links embedded with PHPSESSID. Bad mojo...never embed a session hash into a link. There is no good reason to do this.

For seconds, you've got a number of spelling and grammatical errors ("Chatz Away" comes to mind.)

Finally, you don't appear to have a lot of posters yet. Forums have the unique property of being "self-SEOed"...the more you get people to post in there, the better your SEO efforts work out for you.

So if you're worried about SEO, fix your site up for your users (in this case, doctors), get them to participate, and you'll have your problem solved.

**kenang82** · 04-07-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

Something that's readable by both humans and search engines.

You also have much deeper issues with your site in terms of indexing and crawlability.

For starters, you've got links embedded with PHPSESSID. Bad mojo...never embed a session hash into a link. There is no good reason to do this.

I don't quite get you. Please further explain on this. Thanks

**ADAM Web Design** · 10:22 PM

Weird. I don't see it now. But I did see links of the form http://www.emedinews.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a035eb32... These links are problematic for search engines to index and for users to provide links from because the PHPSESSID is unique to each user session (or bot session). This affects both search engine visibility and user friendliness as a result, since the URL keeps changing for the same page.

However, I discovered something else in looking for PHPSESSID...your code. To be more specific, the number of validation errors in it.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emedinews.com%2F

Simply put, your major issue is that you've tried to create a set of <head></head> tags before you assigned a doctype to your document. I don't know if this would have caused your specific issue, since I've never seen anyone do this before, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were at least a contributing factor. At the very least, you should fix up your code for user reasons.

**kenang82** · 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

Weird. I don't see it now. But I did see links of the form http://www.emedinews.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a035eb32... These links are problematic for search engines to index and for users to provide links from because the PHPSESSID is unique to each user session (or bot session). This affects both search engine visibility and user friendliness as a result, since the URL keeps changing for the same page.

However, I discovered something else in looking for PHPSESSID...your code. To be more specific, the number of validation errors in it.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emedinews.com%2F

Simply put, your major issue is that you've tried to create a set of <head></head> tags before you assigned a doctype to your document. I don't know if this would have caused your specific issue, since I've never seen anyone do this before, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were at least a contributing factor. At the very least, you should fix up your code for user reasons.

The <head><head> tags were added by me when I added meta tag created by myself into index.template.php although there is another duplicate there (not relevant to my site at all!).
Now I would like to add doctype to my site. Where should I put the code? And which doctype type should I use?

And I need your explaination on "But I did see links of the form http://www.emedinews.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a035eb32... These links are problematic for search engines to index and for users to provide links from because the PHPSESSID is unique to each user session (or bot session). This affects both search engine visibility and user friendliness as a result, since the URL keeps changing for the same page.". How can I fix the error? Thank you so much of your great help!

**Ar3d** · 04-12-2007, 03:16 AM

try work on keyword density and its prominence. use the essential HTML code (heading, title, description, alt text and body).

**willcode4beer** · 04-12-2007, 12:37 PM

One thing the meta description tag is good for is the synopsis of your site on the results page.
For example, using my site as an example (shameless self promotion)
http://www.google.com/search?q=willcode4beer
The link is the same text as the title tag, the text below the link is the description from the meta tag. So, in the search results, you have an idea if the site is what you want or not.

Does this help search rankings? not in the least. Can it help users only see what they are interested in? yes