SEO Tycoon

**culture** · 04-06-2007, 09:54 AM

My site is new approx 2 month .It is possible to get ranking or PR
because google catch in six month in Sandbox . It is true or not.
Please explain in detail .Any idea and suggestion will appresiated.

Thanks
Culture

**bzimage** · 04-06-2007, 10:59 AM

the pagerank update is coming in april, make sure you have backlinks and inbound links to get a PR when it updates

**Kirtan** · 04-06-2007, 12:38 PM

You may get PageRank, depends on backlinks. But You will not get SERP Rankings. It is not sandbox but it's called "Aging Delay". Google takes time (usually 9 months and above) to trust your domain and its documents.

**gringo** · 04-06-2007, 01:46 PM

The competition for the search terms you are targeting can affect whether or not you rank so quickly. If you have no competition, it's possible to rank very quickly. If competition is hot, expect hard work and have lots of patience.

**kovid** · 04-07-2007, 12:34 AM

you can get page rank but rank in se would be difficult in two months time unless you have very less compettion

**ADAM Web Design** · 04-07-2007, 02:12 AM

First of all, before you get confused by the great unwashed who insist that PageRank is the universal SEO solvent, you need to understand that there are two versions of PageRank.

Version 1 is the one we all get to see...the one that associates itself with the toolbar and is updated infrequently (usually 3-4 times per year).

Version 2 is the one only big G-types get to see...this is the one that is updated constantly and the one that actually does factor in the algorithm. HOWEVER...it's a minor factor at best, so it's not something you need to really be concerned about as such.

If you're not ranking for a keyword or phrase that you want to, at least one of these three factors is usually at work:

1) Your site has user issues. Bad code, navigation issues, slow load times, etc. In other words, it's not really optimized for users. This quite often leads to...

2) A lack of quality inbound links. These are links you don't have to ask for, that people just give you because they think your site is actually useful.

3) You're going after phrases and keywords that have been established by competitors long before you ever did and as such, simply have entrenched a better position. This is quite often confused with the "sandbox" effect, when it's nothing more than the site in question having not proved itself yet. 1) and 2) also tie into 3).

Having said all of that...what's your site?

**princess06** · 04-11-2007, 02:01 PM

can you give the URL of your site, so that it will be easier for us to determine the problem

**FreelancerStore** · 04-11-2007, 09:02 PM

www.freelancegossip.com only 2 months old and by the second week online it went to the second page in google for keyword:
freelance forum

so, your answer is yes. didn't think it was possible but it did.

**Kirtan** · 04-11-2007, 11:35 PM

I think, it depends on competition and relevancy. When there is no competition for "freelance forum" and your forum has "freelance" in its domain name it shows up. From the 3rd page google displays general webmaster forum results.

When there is no competition, google shows domains which has the searched keywords. Another example. "osho community" shows www.oshocommunity.com on first page. For these kind of web documents, there is no need for SEO.

**chrishirst** · 04-12-2007, 07:39 AM

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only 2 months old and by the second week online it went to the second page in google for keyword:
freelance forum

Perfectly normal behaviour for a new site.

**domain-sleuth** · 04-12-2007, 08:32 AM

Google updates the PR only 4 times a year

You have to wait a little bit

**luvlyn** · 04-12-2007, 09:28 AM

ranking and serp takes time and work, so do your SEO thing

**willcode4beer** · 04-12-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by culture

My site is new approx 2 month .It is possible to get ranking or PR
because google catch in six month in Sandbox . It is true or not.
Please explain in detail .Any idea and suggestion will appresiated.

Thanks
Culture

Think about your objectives and stay focused. As many will point out, the only real use of page rank is to sell back links to the gullible. If that is not your objective, then I assume your objective is sales or ad clicks. You are probably hoping to increase these through incread traffic.

The thing is it is so easy to get so focused or SEO, that you lose focus on the actual objective. Remember, you want to focus on customers, not search engines.

For example, lets say you have a site that sells cellphone accessories (used to be a common theme for web sites). Then you'd buy ads to promote the site, you'd put ads for your site on your car, you'd always have accessories with you in public and wear/give away tshirts promoting the business.
Many people hear will offer the advice (that should really be followed) of promote your site as if search engines did not exist, and make sure the site is useful ans usable, the SEO will take care of itself. Grab some random people you know, ask them to visit the site. Then, shut up and take notes on how useful/usable they find it. Listen to them.

One of the most amusing (to me) things in these forums are the people complaining that everybody offers the same advice yet. You'd think they'd listen.
Basic keys:

useful content
unique content
fresh content
community
promotion (people not, machines)
good code (clean valid html)

**SearchAnyway** · 04-12-2007, 01:03 PM

Honestly, page rank is not all that important. It's a symptom of SEO progress and acts as a loose measure of your site's findability, but other than that, don't worry about it too much. Get your content going, get your backlinks up, and focus on the basics.