SEO Tycoon

**sharona** · 05:30 AM

Hi,

Does anybody knows what happens to this site? (www . tsrocks . com)

It was high in the google results for lyrics but suddenly dissapeared. see this alexa traffic chart http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...w.tsrocks.com/

I did some analysis and found out that this domain was a previous christian lyrics directory and has recently been changed to this layout. This was not a drop as domain age is still 8 years old. At it's high times this website had links from high PR7-8 websites. Now only a link from metimes.com is left.

My conclusion is that this site was bought from the previous owners then the new owner spend high $$$ on SEO, buying expensive links. Then google found out and gone was the investement.

And my question would be: What was done wrong in this SEO attepmt?

**jo_cstd** · 05:42 AM

Did you optimize the site for the keyword "lyrics"?

Buying expensive links is not enough to rank in SEs.

**sharona** · 04-25-2007, 05:58 AM

First tsrocks is not my website. I was doing SEO for my music related website and stubled on the tsrocks when doing analysis on links.
They however did very well in the search results in the first 3 months of this year. They peaked on Alexa in march at traffic rank of approx. 3000.
I did analyse to see what they did wring in order to avoid the same mistakes but i could not find any yet.

**SeLFiE_12** · 04-25-2007, 06:08 AM

well you should know that SEO is a continuous process and they might have stop on doing it for a while and it resulted like that...just keep in mind that your competitors are doing their best to out rank you so you should continue improving your site's contents and link popularity...

**sharona** · 04-25-2007, 06:16 AM

Yes Selfie that is what i tought in the first place also. But did you have a look at their alexa graph? At the steep curve's up and then down.
I also noticed that during their drop in rankings the links they bought were still up. in my opinion Google must have devaluated the value of those links to zero.

**jo_cstd** · 04-25-2007, 07:00 AM

I doubt that the links alone are the problem. What keywords do you think were used by its SEO?

**sharona** · 04-25-2007, 07:47 AM

On metimes they bought the term TSRocks. In the past i have seen their link on a university newspaper website with the term "TSRocks Lyrics". On other sites mostly directories they used the term Lyrics, Song Lyrics etc.

**jo_cstd** · 08:10 AM

Looking at tsrocks main page, we can clearly see that the page wasn't optimized for any keyword(s), especially one with lyrics on it.
You can use this tool to check - http://www.ranks.nl/tools/spider.html
Backlinks may not be the problem since it has a lot - IBL.

**chrishirst** · 04-25-2007, 09:39 AM

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I also noticed that during their drop in rankings the links they bought were still up. in my opinion Google must have devaluated the value of those links to zero.

It can happen when a domain name changes owner.
The "first registered" entry on a whois search will always show the very first time the name was registered, it does not change on ownership changes. Unless the name expired and was re-registered.

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They peaked on Alexa in march at traffic rank of approx. 3000.

The former owners probably stopped their Alexa spoofing bot

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My conclusion is that this site was bought from the previous owners then the new owner spend high $$$ on SEO, buying expensive links. Then google found out and gone was the investement

Possibly.
However it's more likely the other way around.
The previous owners invested in links etc before the sale to make the site more "valuable", especially to the gullible.

**sharona** · 04-25-2007, 04:52 PM

Chrishist,

You analysis is really great looking from the other side as if they SEO before the sale of the domain.
It's really a tough world being a SEO

**Ar3d** · 04-26-2007, 04:29 AM

maybe because its change the content or you layouts from the previous where Google see it. which i think its better to optimized the site when its off, by the way how old the site from the first you change the layout..

**Learning Newbie** · 04-26-2007, 04:40 AM

Alexa rank is even more worthless than PageRank, and it took months of discussion for people to accept that anything could be less meaningful than PR.

Our wise one is probably right about an Alexa fooling 'bot. Which brings us back to the point about how little Alexa rank means.

**chrishirst** · 04-26-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ar3d

maybe because its change the content or you layouts from the previous where Google see it. which i think its better to optimized the site when its off, by the way how old the site from the first you change the layout..

Is it that you don't read all the posts in a thread or do you choose to ignore some???

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Originally Posted by sharona in post #3

First tsrocks is not my website. I was doing SEO for my music related website and stubled on the tsrocks when doing analysis on links.

emphasis mine