SEO Tycoon

**webspace** · 08-08-2007, 12:52 PM

I'm just going to through this out. Bite if you want.

PageRank doesn't matter when you are swapping links. The whole idea of swapping links to is for keyword popularity. PageRank only comes into play when the pages are pretty much tied for rank on the search page. That means that if two pages have the same PageRank the better page is going to get the ranking.

If you are going to swap links do it with people who have related sites be less concerned about PR becuase the real PR you want is the other kind.

You might establish good report with some people in your own field of interest.

You might see sites PR0 and in 3 months or so PR5,6, or 7. When sites are new they don't have PR yet. That doesn't mean they are not great sites. That means that Google doesn't know about them yet. It takes Google about three months to find your website after you publish. Did anyone not know this?

Furthermore the site you are looking might have alot of traffic from other sources. With hundreds of social media sites and non internet related marketing (you know billboards, on the sides of busses, TV, Radio, Print) Those other media sources). You might miss out on alot of direct click throughs a really good site with targeted visitors (potential customers).

I just think it is pretty short sighted post something like No PR5 = No link swap or anything that effect.

Not accepting a link swap from a low PR site is like not dating someone unless they wear gucci. Anyway once people get the idea that PageRank is some kind of status out of their heads this will alot better for everyone.

**ADAM Web Design** · 08-08-2007, 01:20 PM

One of the things that frustrates me the most is when someone is right on one issue and still manages to miss the greater point.

You're right about PageRank and link swaps. PageRank isn't the problem, though...it's the symptom.

http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=66356

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However, some webmasters engage in link exchange schemes and build partner pages exclusively for the sake of cross-linking, disregarding the quality of the links, the sources, and the long-term impact it will have on their sites.

Link swaps for keyword popularity reasons are exactly the kind of thing being referred to here.

I wouldn't accept a link swap from a low PR site...or a medium one...or a high one. Why? They don't work.

**webspace** · 02:08 PM

I think you are mostly right about swapping links. I suppose people are mostly swapping links to spam Google. I'm not one of those people but I suppose Google isn't going to care about that.

**Learning Newbie** · 08-08-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by webspace

Not accepting a link swap from a low PR site is like not dating someone unless they wear gucci. Anyway once people get the idea that PageRank is some kind of status out of their heads this will alot better for everyone.

"I don't wear Prada because I think the horses are hotter." - Prince Paul

"Ask about their culture and they talk about Gucci." - KRS-One

**webspace** · 08-09-2007, 10:03 PM

Good quotes.

**Learning Newbie** · 08-10-2007, 04:32 PM

Thanks! Your comment reminded me of them.

**webspace** · 08-18-2007, 06:33 PM

I think I will go with non internet related advertisements.

**contact247** · 08-21-2007, 02:05 AM

swapping links or links exchange....do you have a IT site??

**webspace** · 08-21-2007, 09:32 PM

There's a link swap forum. You should read this thread before posting in it.

**zahuashu** · 07:02 AM

hi
I want to link exchange with you

**webspace** · 12:19 PM

Is anyone gonna actually read this thread before they blow it up with link swap spam?

**chrishirst** · 08-23-2007, 07:07 AM

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Is anyone gonna actually read this thread before they blow it up with link swap spam

Very doubtful, because for the most part they are not interested

http://www.webmaster-talk.com/miscel...tml#post442416

**webspace** · 08-24-2007, 12:30 AM

I'm totally hearing you Chris.

Many forums sites have done away with link swap forums becuase they are so much work to moderate. I think it is going to come down to coding and not manual moderation.

I have seen a bit of spam in the affiliate programs forums and also some boiler plate type link swap PMs but nothing terribly annoying.

I have also seen those people trying to buy diggs or delicious bookmarks.

There's always the visual confirmation. But those are pretty annoying. Then there is the post so many post before you can post an ad, offer, service, etc.

Make people do 20 or so site reviews or something usefull to the community beofer they can post. Digital point has some measures like that in place and it seems to help a little bit. That's mostly a marketplace related forum though. I can't say if it would work for WT.

Thanks for the notes gentlemen. I appreciate your input.

**chrishirst** · 08-25-2007, 10:06 AM

A solution to much of the "noise" is being looked at currently.

**CSS4Life** · 08-25-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

A solution to much of the "noise" is being looked at currently.

I've been banging on about blocks on users signing up multiple times with the same email account a lot, but it's certainly one method in the overall crackdown on spam