SEO Tycoon

**hamesy** · 08-28-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by theseokit

I think we already kind of knew that PR or page rank is a waste of time. But its not a waste for those of us who sell high pr links. For us its our bread and butter!

Selling high PR links gives newbies the false sense that their website will be successful because a high PR website is linking to them.

Also if it's a waste of space, why are you selling high PR links?

**bzimage** · 08-28-2007, 09:43 AM

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

No other reason then it makes me money. And my pr6 links are much more then just a pr6. I only sell 10 spots per pr6 url so the pr6s are very powerful for those who buy and it will help there rank!

**hamesy** · 08-28-2007, 09:46 AM

But you've just said that PR is a waste of space, yet you are encouraging people to buy a link in an attempt to raise their PR.

**bzimage** · 08-28-2007, 09:47 AM

If you have a family to feed you will do what you have to get money friend. But I assure you that PR has value to the search engines, and nobody in there right mind who has a pr6 or pr7 / pr8 website would not sell links to make a monthly income well over the average wage.

If you would then you must have hit your head real hard last night. Sorry to say.

**CSS4Life** · 08-28-2007, 09:48 AM

I wouldn't bother arguing with this idiot. He has no idea what he's talking about and he's got a strange ethical code...

**bzimage** · 08-28-2007, 09:51 AM

Whym, I'm not arguing in any way, I am simply laying down what I know to be the truth. Can you 100% prove to me that PR is a complete waste of time? I doubt it since I can prove that it is beneficial

Rember though PR is not made up because its some fake thing, it was invented by the motherload in Google and they did it for a reason

**hamesy** · 08-28-2007, 09:51 AM

Many high PR websites generate their income naturally. They don't con newbies into buying links.

At the end of the day, it is simple that you have no real interest apart from conning people out of their money.

Also can you prove that PR is useful?

**bzimage** · 08-28-2007, 09:52 AM

I am shocked you would say such a thing...

I dont con anyone, if you dont know that other factors come into play when doing SEO then simply high pr links then you need to do some research yourself.

But it is a part of it and I simply provide that part

**hamesy** · 08-28-2007, 09:56 AM

Can you prove in this thread that PR is useful?

**CSS4Life** · 08-28-2007, 09:58 AM

Obviously not. I did prove (before the thread got hijacked) that PageRank is pretty much a waste of time, on the other hand he hasn't. I'm going off now, but I'll be back!

**JamieLewis** · 08-28-2007, 10:07 AM

I can prove it is useless:

Page rank is determined by the number of sites that link to you. The more sites that link to you the higher your pagerank, the higher pagerank of the sites that link to you, the higher your pagerank.

BUT, the links you get are useless, you can have as many PR6 links pointing to you and it won't improve traffic unless they are relevant!!

And even then they are hardly ever contextual links inside the copy body, links placed there have a far higher probability of being checked and picked up as being important by spiders.

Paying for links to improve page rank also violates the Google TOS and I along with several other people already report these sites to Google and I have seen a number dealt with already.

theseokit: The service you offer is unethical and is generally frowned upon by people who want to web to be a useful resource and great content provider. Kindly change your practices, there is a growing grass roots movement and support is being provided all the time from the likes of Google. Pretty soon you will be without your bread and butter.

Jamie

**bzimage** · 08-28-2007, 12:04 PM

I am not going to waste my time proving anything to people who are not open to another opinion. Sorry but my time is much to valuable to me to waste it like this I am out as well.

**dojo** · 08-28-2007, 12:08 PM

I sell links on my sites. And PR does matter, at least for this reason .. the higher it is, the more money I can ask for

**CSS4Life** · 08-28-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theseokit

I am not going to waste my time proving anything to people who are not open to another opinion. Sorry but my time is much to valuable to me to waste it like this I am out as well.

You are wasting your time because you know you actually have no case at all. Your backing down because you have no proof, while we have plenty. In a reasoned intellectual debate, both sides at the very least present their evidence - yet I see none from you.

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Originally Posted by dojo

I sell links on my sites. And PR does matter, at least for this reason .. the higher it is, the more money I can ask for

That seems to ignore the reason people pay for links - they think it will improve their rankings, which it doesn't necessarily. I've presented evidence to show that PageRank is certainly far less important than most people think, so if everyone knew this, links from high PR sites would be worthless. It's only because so many people believe PR is so important, that they pay so much for PageRank. Your argument just goes round in circles - "PR is important because people pay money for it, because they think it's important" blah blah blah.

The fact is, it's far less important than it used to be, and it will probably continue to become less important. It's been widely abused by people like you two

**bzimage** · 08-28-2007, 01:52 PM

I am going to provide proof in the proper way, your blatant attacks on my character in public is not the way to go about it.

When you calm down and are ready to listen to reason perhaps I will share my knowledge with you and we can discuss it over tee.

**CSS4Life** · 08-28-2007, 01:54 PM

What's tee? It's "tea"! If you are to retain any credibility, then show everyone your proof...

**bzimage** · 08-28-2007, 01:59 PM

No, not till you calm down. When you are calm you will know how to get the answer out of me. Till then I wont reply here

**ADAM Web Design** · 08-28-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theseokit

If you have a family to feed you will do what you have to get money friend. But I assure you that PR has value to the search engines, and nobody in there right mind who has a pr6 or pr7 / pr8 website would not sell links to make a monthly income well over the average wage.

If you would then you must have hit your head real hard last night. Sorry to say.

Dude, you're like 18 years old. What family do you have to feed besides some teen **** wannabe that you take out to KFC on Tuesdays to feed her full of cheap chicken before you give her the worst five minutes of her life?

And if I had a PR6+ website, I wouldn't sell my links based on that because I wouldn't have to. People would be buying links based on the traffic they would generate, not the SEO benefit.

**Learning Newbie** · 08-28-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by theseokit

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

No other reason then it makes me money

If you have a family to feed you will do what you have to get money friend.

Well said, Tony Soprano. I'm off to rob a bank so I can pay for a bagel my wife is hungry for.

**bzimage** · 08-28-2007, 03:52 PM

First of all you know nothing of my family so I believe you should not say a word about it

Second believe what you will dont matter to me. I have sent my proof to whym and we talked and he did not reply back. Either because I proved my point or he went to sleep.