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Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
Old 08-27-2007, 06:20 AM Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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So you've built your site, added keywords and description, but you're not listed on Google.

It's very unlikely that you're banned - very few sites actually get banned from the Google index, and these tend to be for using blackhat SEO methods to manipulate the Google index.

The chances are that your site simply isn't listed yet or that it's not listed very high up in the searches you are trying.

Google only lists sites that it can find or have been manually submitted into it's search engine so unless you have a link to your site, or have added the web address (URL), then you won't be in the index. First check that you're site isn't listed by typing in the web address of the site in Google and searching - if you're site is found, then skip this part and go to the next paragraph. Anyway, if you have typed in the address of your site (e.g. yoursite.com or the name of your domain with no spaces e.g. yourwebsite), and it is still not on any of the pages, then your web site probably hasn't been found by Google, so you'll need to add it manually. Click here and type in the address of your site, and it will be added to Google's list of web sites to crawl and eventually add to it's index. Please note that there is no guarantee of this and it may not be listed for several months, if it is added.

If you have found you're site when searching for the address of your site, then it is now in the Google index, but there is too much competition from other sites, and yours isn't popular enough yet to be higher up in the rankings. Google uses hundreds of methods to rank it's sites, but one of the most important is having links into your web site, as from Google's point of view, if sites are linking to yours then your site is more reliable and popular than others. There are underhand methods of getting higher up the rankings, but thee are unfair and in the long term, may lead to having your site banned. Instead, concentrate on providing your visitors with good quality unique content which people will want to link to from their sites. If your web site is providing visitors with something that other sites aren't, then other webmasters and visitors will value your site and link to it from their own sites.

One your site is providing visitors with unique, interesting content, then submit your site to several directories, including Dmoz, which is of a high standard. Do not bother with small general directories as these tend not to bring you any visitors and are mainly a waste of time. It' not terrible to take part in a few link exchanges ("I'll link to your site if you link to mine"), as long as the links are there to bring you both traffic; the web sites are relevant and complimentary to both sites and also that you don't go over the top and participate in too many (10 relevant, complimentary link exchanges is almost definitely enough for most sites).

Whatever you do, remember that you should aim to bring in traffic from a web site, rather than bothering with PageRank - the green bar in the Google toolbar (if you have the toolbar that is). PageRank used to be a useful way of checking the popularity and even the reliability of a we site, but it's been widely abused and is now little more than useless. It doesn't guarantee traffic/visitors to your web site, neither does it even guarantee where you're web site will be placed in search engine rankings, since Google uses more than 100 methods to evaluate web sites.

IN BRIEF - provide your visitors with unique quality interesting content on your site, that people will recommend to others and want to link to. Don't participate in any blackhat or underhand methods to try and improve rankings and don't worry about PageRank!
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Old 08-27-2007, 06:55 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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i guess your site isn't indexed yet by Google.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:24 PM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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i guess your site isn't indexed yet by Google.
Nope, you've guessed wrong. I've got many sites, but most of them (apart from a very new one) have now been indexed by Google
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:45 PM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Google only lists sites that it can find or have been manually submitted into it's search engine so unless you have a link to your site, or have added the web address (URL), then you won't be in the index.
There's a lot of debate about whether the submit your url feature does anything positive; a few people have even suggested it's bad for you ... sends the message you can't get links. I don't think that's true, but there are people who do.

As long as you can get a couple of links on pages that are spidered regularly, there's no need to add your site directly through Google's form. Whether it's a few directories, another site of yours, whatever, you can do this in a way that's not at all spam.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:01 PM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Yeah I've heard something similar to that Forrest - if you manually add your site, it goes to the end of the list or whatever and takes a much much longer time to crawl than if it was added to any regular site - therefore making the add URL feature a bit pointless in some ways.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:23 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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my site isnt on google either. it is gullible.org but no one believes me because of its name. thanks for the infos
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:11 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Yeah I can see why no-one believes you grampawebmaster - the name is gullible.org which is a little strange to say the least, and the page is a parked domain...
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:25 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Getting indexed by Google is not what gets you on the first few pages. Links and hard work is all that does it. Get to work if you want to see results! I know from experience that it takes hard work to rank well in high competition terms! Learn from my mistakes friend!
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:28 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Did I say it was easy to get on the first page? NO. It's not easy. I'm just giving newbies a very basic crash course in SEO (sort of).

I also know that its hard to get on the first page of Google - I'm sorry if my post made it sound like a piece of cake
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:31 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Well it seems as if you gave that impression and I want to ensure the newbies know that its not easy never has been never will be.

Buy links or exchange links for years either method works and it gets results.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:38 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Isn't buying links against Google's TOS?
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:41 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Buying to manipulate PageRank probably is.

TheSEOKit - stop trying to mislead newbies yourself. Link exchange is not natural and is not sustainable. I hope Google really cracks down on people like you who swap hundreds of links - that'll teach you.

If you provide quality content, people link naturally to your page - that IS sustainable.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:42 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Isn't buying links against Google's TOS?
Yes, and so is exchanging links to improve your rankings.

Any reputable SEO would not condone such behaviour.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:42 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Ha ha, dude don't get caught up in that nonsense, Google has no way nor the man power to prove if each link is paid for or not.

Google only does that to scare off the newer SEO people and thats all there is to it. If you read some of the big SEO wigs blogs you will see they are not concerned with it at all!
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:44 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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And its people like you that give SEOs a bad name. They don't need the man power to check. Their algorithm's are designed to pick these things up.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:44 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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You are a cruel person SEOKit - if I could give out any more TP, I would. You are misleading the average Joe Bloggs. Even if Google can't tell whether it's paid or not, it can differentiate with link exchanges!

People like you really annoy me - pretending to be experts when you know nothing and just corrupt the web!
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:46 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Whym, I can prove I know SEO coz I rank in some very tough terms. I would like to see some of the hard terms your ranked in.... I am more then happy to pm you my SEO success friend just say the word.
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Please, why don't you tell us what these "tough terms" are?
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:49 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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This thread is not for this friend, if you want the proof just pm me and I will be happy to provide this info to you. I can even show you some clients websites I have ranking in top terms.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:50 AM Re: Why isn't your site on the first few pages of Google?
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Google is cracking down on link exchanges. PageRank is more and more worthless by the day as it includes new measures to rank web sites.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall
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