Hello!
I have a strange problem with some of my sites. It appears after the last PR update. I've had no time to improve my PR, so there was no PR changes for the main pages of my sites, but some secondary pages (not all of them!) have now N/A. Before the last update they have relative good PR (3, 2 or 1), but now I see only N/A there. They are not supplemental, texts are unique, they have no elements of black SEO. And the most strange thing - not all of them are banned! I don't understand this situation. How can two pages with the same menu structure (it means same linking model) have different PR?
Does anybody have any ideas?
With best regards, Alex

1) You're obsessing over a number (external PageRank) that means nothing, as it is known to be inaccurate at the best of times.

2) You haven't showed us the site yet.

One of the sites is www.woman-for-marriage-ukraine.com
PR of some pages is important for me, I cann't get a good link exchange offering a backlink from N/A

This might sound a bit recursive, but you can't get a good PR from link exchange.

I think your domain name might have something to do with your ban, though.

This is precisely the reason why intelligent people keep saying that PageRank is useless.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLF,GGLF:2006-19,GGLF:en&q=site%3awoman%2dfor%2dmarriage%2dukrai ne%2ecom

You'll notice that the gifts.shtml page is listed. It doesn't have any Toolbar PR (it's grey.)
album.shtml is listed. Toolbar PR is grey.

What does that mean? The pages have to have at least some internal PageRank (or they wouldn't be fully indexed.)

There are much deeper issues with this site, but I have to go now.

I was brave and looked from work. Probably shouldn't have. Anyway, it looks like you're liking out to neighborhoods Google doesn't like.

Okay, I'm back.

Polaris, your problem is that you've had you've gotten so much bad SEO and traffic-related advice that you now need to surgically remove your own head from your colon.

Allow me to explain:

1) You're openly linking out to competitors...and on your front page, to boot. Think about this from a brick and mortar standpoint...if a stranger was to walk in off the street and see your agency, would you have a poster for Crazy Yuri's Discount Russian Bride and Lada Emporium taped to the front window? No, you wouldn't. So why do you have it here? It doesn't help your end user in any way. Your SEO benefit is nil too.

2) Your idea is so old and so beaten up that I doubt you'll ever crack the market you're in. Anyone with an email account that has ever published it on a web page will know how many so-called desperate, emaciated ladies there are from the former Soviet Union just waiting for citizenship via marriage (or to jerk a guy around by the cojones for $5,000). Why do what everyone else does, in the same manner that pretty well everyone else does it?

3) You're running Adsense ads...again, taking away from any sales you'd want to make. If sales weren't an issue, you wouldn't be asking the PageRank question, so you obviously aren't maxed out and therefore aren't in the 1 of every 10,000 sales sites that can actually put Adsense on their sites and have a legit reason to do so.

4) Your site has to resort to cheap tricks (they're everywhere) because the content of it does nothing to stand out. This is a symptom of poor design and/or a lack of original content (although your women aren't too bad looking.)

In other words, what you need to do to solve your SEO issue is to first step back and examine things from a design point of view. Look at what a potential lonely Western man might want from a site like yours, and give it to them (and you can start by removing the temperature thing on the left side...why would any of your customers give a **** if it's 57 degrees Fahrenheit in Kiev?)

And for God's sake, stop obsessing over a thoroughly inaccurate number such as PageRank. The link exchanges that stem from it won't do you a **** bit of good anyway, and they're just more SEO bull**** that other idiots whose sites don't get a bit of traffic like to spout off because the so-called industry leaders told them so and none of them have the common sense to think for themselves.

You gonna think for yourself, or you gonna follow the crowd?

Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

This is precisely the reason why intelligent people keep saying that PageRank is useless.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...dukraine%2ecom

You'll notice that the gifts.shtml page is listed. It doesn't have any Toolbar PR (it's grey.)
album.shtml is listed. Toolbar PR is grey.

What does that mean? The pages have to have at least some internal PageRank (or they wouldn't be fully indexed.)

There are much deeper issues with this site, but I have to go now.

Well it is ok that having Toolbar PR grey does not mean your page is not indexed but can you tell me what is 'Internal page Rank' and how to check Internal page Rank o a site.

Originally Posted by coolslko

Well it is ok that having Toolbar PR grey does not mean your page is not indexed but can you tell me what is 'Internal page Rank' and how to check Internal page Rank o a site.

Oh great - more useless rank checking. I'm sure the rank checking websites will be rubbing their hands in glee

'Internal page Rank' and how to check Internal page Rank o a site.

It's the REAL PageRank that only Google knows about and No! you can't check it.

AND
Sites don't have PR, pages do

What Hirst said. Internal PageRank cannot be checked, and thank the baby Jesus for that. SEOs as a collective would get themselves into a giant mess if they could check their own PageRanks.

Don't listen to the advice you got so far in this thread, particularly the last two messages from Chris and Adam. They're just trying to get you to stop checking your PageRank and your SerpRank. It's a well known fact that if you let 6 hours pass without searching for your domain or home page title, it will fall off the side of a cliff.

Because links were too easily manipulated, Google has switched to the model of the more often a site comes up in a search, the better it does in searches overall. So when you check your rank you push your site to page 1 above all the others.

Oh, and you can check your Internal PageRank. It's easy. All you need to do is get a job at Google. But not just any job, you need to get one at a position that works in the ranking department. What could be easier? Just move from India to California, talk Google into hiring you, find an apartment, and then you'll know a number.

Google is interviewing candidates for engineering positions at our lunar hosting and research center, opening late in the spring of 2007. This unique opportunity is available only to highly-qualified individuals who are willing to relocate for an extended period of time, are in top physical condition and are capable of surviving with limited access to such modern conveniences as soy low-fat lattes, The Sopranos and a steady supply of oxygen..........

* Exactly how far does the Worldwide web extend? Can it become an interplanetary utility? If so, will it replace Water Works on Monopoly®? * What are the likely effects of link attenuation over extreme distances? Is there a limit to link strength, or is it infinitely extensible like bubble gum that gets stuck to the bottom of your shoe? * What happens to PageRank in the proximity of a black hole? Is there distortion that might result in link relevancy reduction or popularity warping? Could this somehow be harnessed to generate more dates for engineers? * Does spam go on forever?

It's a well known fact that if you let 6 hours pass without searching for your domain or home page title, it will fall off the side of a cliff.

Because links were too easily manipulated, Google has switched to the model of the more often a site comes up in a search, the better it does in searches overall. So when you check your rank you push your site to page 1 above all the others.

You know what's going to happen now



Somebody will post a question that goes along the lines of;

"I read in the internet if you check you ranking every 6 hours my site will get to be No1 in the results.

Should I use a software for this or has it done by hand?"

Originally Posted by chrishirst

You know what's going to happen now



Somebody will post a question that goes along the lines of;

"I read in the internet if you check you ranking every 6 hours my site will get to be No1 in the results.

Should I use a software for this or has it done by hand?"

Shortly followed by a post by the provider of such a tool

www.smartcheckrank.com probably.

Originally Posted by gringo

www.smartcheckrank.com probably.

No I vote for www.gullible.org.uk as the world leader for useless, false, misleading and pointless information

Oh thanks a lot! i just want to confirm about it..

does it really work?

Originally Posted by chrishirst

I read in the internet if you check you ranking every 6 hours my site will get to be No1 in the results.

Originally Posted by coolslko

Oh thanks a lot! i just want to confirm about it..

Originally Posted by benjimit

does it really work?

Well it's either that - refreshing the pagerank checking tool every second for 6 hours a day, or the naked Google PageRank dance....

Dammit, whym, don't lie to people like that. Naked Google PageRank dance only works during a full moon in the summertime after drinking a 40 of vodka neat.

Now...as far as smartcheckrank.com goes, I use it for all my pointless exercises PageRank queries and find that it's an accurate representation of all the datacenters, and I would highly recommend that anyone who is concerned with their PageRank use it to determine how many of my PageRank pens they need.

Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

Dammit, whym, don't lie to people like that. Naked Google PageRank dance only works during a full moon in the summertime after drinking a 40 of vodka neat.

Now...as far as smartcheckrank.com goes, I use it for all my pointless exercises PageRank queries and find that it's an accurate representation of all the datacenters, and I would highly recommend that anyone who is concerned with their PageRank use it to determine how many of my PageRank pens they need.

Adam, you do realise some random guy is going to buy that domain now Lol if I had the money and script know-how, I'd buy it and reverse all of the PageRanks! Lol (PRO=PR10, PR10=PR0 ) I wish....