Hi webmasters!

I am looking for more ways to recognize fake pagerank.
1. Google cache - if site has no cache probably is something wrong.
2. Link Popularity - have to be rather better than 20000 links.

How do you recognize fake PR?

You can't. Nor should you, unless you're looking at external PageRank as a number of some significance (which it isn't...and don't start the stupid little lecture about how PageRank is used by big G to determine how sites rank and the more backlinks you have to a site, the higher it will rank automatically for every keyword or phrase known to man.)

Hirst...don't comment on the word "sites". I put it there on purpose.

Yes, it's not that big of a deal, how Google sees your pagerank. It's a feature that they added after they made their main site, and it doesn't really make a difference on where it appears on the search; if you have the right content on the page, and the people are searching for the right thing, then Google will show your site.

There are ways to fake your pagerank if you still want to, but I'm not going to be the one to help you on your way there.

Some people are going to hate me for this and some will thank me, but this is must read information for all you domain buyers out there.
Recently Ive seen an increase in people selling domains with Pagerank and I am seeing people buying these up like crazy even though the Pagerank is not actually real. The reason why these are selling is because retarded tools are being used that are supposed to detect fake pagerank and are returning results saying “Valid Pagerank”. Now these tools people are trusting to be 100% accurate which they are always not. Also the way they check for fake pagerank is not the best way to do it.
So heres my best advice I can give you if your buying a domain that has Pagerank.
1. Go to Yahoo and type link:www.site.com, this will return the links that point to that site.
2. Now go to each of the sites listed and search for the link to your site.
3. If you find a site with your link on it, just record the PR of the site.
4. Now do each of the sites and see what you come up with.
Chances are you are not going to like what you see. I have plenty of experience in doing this and I will tell you that almost every domain that you are seeing for sale with PR doesnt have any exsisting backlinks left. Meaning that domains PR is going to drop hard on the next update because all backlinks are gone. These are basically domains that have fake pagerank.
Now the “Fake Pagerank Detection Tools” dont check for this, but it is the most important part of researching the domain.
Please do yourself a favor and check the backlinks manually. If not you will get scammed

Adam
I'm not going to start any stupid lecture about PR. I only asked about fake PR recognition.

coolkbk585
"There are ways to fake your pagerank if you still want to, but I'm not going to be the one to help you on your way there."
You didn't understand me. I don't want to fake pr on any site.

Adulu
Thank you for info and link. I have checked domain with fake pr.

I just want to know more about how to recognize fake pr, not how to setup.
See difference! Make me very bad when cheaters selling links on PR7 sites and they have many "happy stupid" customers.

Want to see the link? I can send you PM. I don't want to post here.

It's far simpler than the epistle that Adulu wrote

Ignore Toolbar PageRank TOTALLY!!!
Anyone who buys an expired domain or a link based on it's toolbar PR value deserves everything they don't get.

Chris - I could ignore!!! BUT I want to know about ways to recognize fake pr to write a guide for some people who don't know this subject.

this script will check for fake pr or where is redirecting to
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the owner of this script is robertross he just make it few days ago
this is the thread that he release
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and the idea that make him into this script was

Trick To Get Google Pagerank 10

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Right,

So you want to write a guide telling people how to check if something that is useless anyway is being made more useless by being faked.

Does that not strike you as a pointless exercise in futility??

Wouldn't be better for all concerned to point out why toolbar PR is a meaningless figure anyway?

Why not. In the guide I could write about PR as meaningless factor.

Because in writing about checking for fake PageRank, you're still giving credence to the false notion that it is in some way important and that users should be paying attention to it when they shouldn't. You can write it any way you want, but if you focus on the faking of PageRank rather than its lack of meaning, then you're making PageRank sound important...which it isn't.

Adulu: wow, what a load of drivel. Check backlinks manually. Add up PR. Where the hell did you get such crappy ideas and advice from? Oh wait...prevailing SEO wisdom, which doesn't work, hasn't worked for quite some time, and won't work.

Originally Posted by sylwester

Chris - I could ignore!!! BUT I want to know about ways to recognize fake pr to write a guide for some people who don't know this subject.

Is it just me, or when the domain registration changes to a totally different person, won't they just flush the PR back to NA?

Originally Posted by sylwester

Hi webmasters!

I am looking for more ways to recognize fake pagerank.
1. Google cache - if site has no cache probably is something wrong.
2. Link Popularity - have to be rather better than 20000 links.

How do you recognize fake PR?

you can check for fake PageRank here:
http://www.seologs.com/pr-check/pagerank.html

Adam - where Google says that PR is not important, so why Google has Pr10 ?

Google has a PR 10 because so many people link to them. Particularly their search results to illustrate a concept.

So in that way links are more important than content, cause I don't see nothing interesting on google main page. Right?

Originally Posted by sylwester

Adam - where Google says that PR is not important, so why Google has Pr10 ?

Real PR (the one only Google knows the value of) is useful as ONE of the 100+ factors that is used to rank sites.

But that is REAL PR not the inaccurate, out of date, proxy value that is exported occasionally to the toolbar, which is the one that is useless as a measure of anything.

Originally Posted by sylwester

So in that way links are more important than content, cause I don't see nothing interesting on google main page. Right?

Only customers are important. You can drive 1,000,000 people a day to your site, but if they don't buy anything, all you're gonna wind up with is a huge bandwidth bill.

Originally Posted by sylwester

So in that way links are more important than content, cause I don't see nothing interesting on google main page. Right?

Nope. links are NOT more important than content, and have never been. The people who think links are the be all an end all of SEO are way off the mark.

Links only create PR, that's it

It is the anchor text of links, and the content of the page the links point to creates or improves the SERP ranking.

I heard there are 216 factors.... Why google just remove pagerank?