Hello everybody,

Does Iwebtool predict true PR results....? It was showing PR5 for my website www.vtlglobal.com before last update but after updation the PR is remain unchanged which was PR3. Now, it is showing PR4 with accuracy 87.5% .

I want to confirm that anybody have better PR prediction result throught Iwebtool. If yes, then what is the reason not to rank as per prediction in respect of my site.....?

Is it trustable or not.....?

Have a nice day.

Thanks and regards.....
Satyanand Verma
VTLGlobal Inc.
Noida, India.

Well if it says 87.5% accuracy, it must be true. Just like Wikipedia - no one would ever say anything not true there. But you have to remember that even though this tool has a direct pipe into Google's FutureServers (TM), the data is still worthless?

Why? Well, I'll let Adam explain all the reasons why PR is as useful as a bicycle is to a fish.

Does Iwebtool predict true PR results....?

Nope!

You need three ground chicken bones and a pint of pigeons milk to get accurate results.

1) 'Real' PR (i.e. the PR that only Google know) is only one of many factors that influence your rankings - if that's what you're concerned about
2) Toolbar PR (which is the only PR any prediction tool can get its hands on) is stale - i.e. it can be a good few months old. It's not accurate.
3) Nobody can 'know' the future (apart from Chris and his chicken bones). Even Google won't be able to tell you precisely what your PR will be next month

I wouldn't bother worrying about PR. It's really not that important

Originally Posted by gringo

3) Nobody can 'know' the future (apart from Chris and his chicken bones). Even Google won't be able to tell you precisely what your PR will be next month

True dat. Google demystified - all they really do is take the world's biggest database and run it through a formula you could write in Excel to figure out your page rank. Google doesn't know what it will be because they don't have all the data that will be available at the next update.

Plus, all companies are broken up into teams. One team runs their operations, a totally different team tweaks their formula. That's another reason your PR can change and this tool won't know about it.

And in case it wasn't clear, this was sarcasm

even though this tool has a direct pipe into Google's FutureServers (TM), the data is still worthless

Why not ask them?

They have their own community and (probably) know more about their own tools.

James there's nothing to ask them. They can't predict your PR because no one can predict it. How can anyone know how many links you'll build into your site next month or the month after or the month after that? How can anyone know what the PR of the pages where those links come from will be next month or the month after or the month after that.

Originally Posted by vangogh

James there's nothing to ask them. They can't predict your PR because no one can predict it.

Anyone can *Predict* PR, no matter how inaccurate it may be

Originally Posted by vangogh

How can anyone know how many links you'll build into your site next month or the month after or the month after that? How can anyone know what the PR of the pages where those links come from will be next month or the month after or the month after that.

That’s like predicting toolbar PR. From my understanding, what it does is predict what the PR currently is, as if Google decided to update at that very moment, based on your sites no. of current backlinks, content, etc.

same as here, it say i will get pagerank 4 for http://www.httpseo.com/ and pagerank 5 for http://www.addthisto.com/

http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_pre...ww.httpseo.com


i believed that is true, because these information is collecting from

http://www.google.com/search?client=navclient-auto&ch=6-410751642&features=Rank&q=

im not really sure about the iwebtool, but this one build with the code above

http://www.inet411.com/domains/futur...ww.httpseo.com

oh well.. even it say pr4 but on my mine might be pr3 hahahah

True James about being able to predict anything. I guess I should have said predict with reasonable accuracy.

The inaccuracy of those predictions is that they can't predict what real PR is. No data about that is released. What most off those tools do is grab Toolbar PR from all the different datacenters and then average those numbers.

The prediction tools are even less accurate than the Toolbar PR value. There really isn't any reason to look at them for anything other than curiosity. The prediction tools aren't going to tell you anything useful.

Originally Posted by vangogh

True James about being able to predict anything. I guess I should have said predict with reasonable accuracy

The inaccuracy of those predictions is that they can't predict what real PR is. No data about that is released. What most off those tools do is grab Toolbar PR from all the different datacenters and then average those numbers.

That makes sense, Steven, because only Google knows exactly how to calculate PR.

iwebtool also uses a similar algorithm for their “PageRank Checker” tool to calculate what the current PR of the site being checked is on different servers, which is in addition to the “PageRank Prediction” tool they use.

Originally Posted by vangogh

The prediction tools are even less accurate than the Toolbar PR value. There really isn't any reason to look at them for anything other than curiosity. The prediction tools aren't going to tell you anything useful.

I agree, I also don’t use them for “accurate predictions” (or anything else, for that matter), so to answer the question of the OP, No, the predictions they make aren’t *true* future resuts.

hmm i can predict pr with my crystal ball !

Gypsy Woc

Oh, Toolbar PageRank...when will people learn? It's like a George W. Bush monologue...useless and full of myth and misinterpretation.

First of all, it's external and NOT used as a ranking factor. So there's no reason whatsoever to care about it, now or in the future.

Second, there are over three digits' worth of factors that make up search engine ranking. So why worry about one at the expense at the other over 100 factors?

http://www.brianwhite.org/2007/06/25/i-have-pagerank

Read it, learn it, love it. Direct from a Googler.

Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

Second, there are over three digits' worth of factors that make up search engine ranking. So why worry about one at the expense at the other over 100 factors?

Just like digital cameras and megapixels. Peter Petera would have a good hi fi audio analogy. Everybody likes to focus on a single number that pretends to encapsulate all knowledge, so they don't have to actually understand anything.

Most people don't realize you can convert between page rank and horse power.

IMHO such prediction tool is like a prediction bowl... noone knows if this will really happen, but of course some math knowledge that counts our points of the page will be useful

You should know the meaning of Prediction!
It is just assuming your PR to be a certain number seeing your backlinks..

No tool assumes the accurate PR of a site!

predicting PR tool is maybe one of the gimmick of the site to drive traffic. that's my opinion on this.

You can believe Iwebtool prediction only if you believe that G. W. Bush
is the elected President of U.S. of A.


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Originally Posted by snowgirl

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im not really sure about the iwebtool, but this one build with the code above

http://www.inet411.com/domains/futur...ww.httpseo.com

oh well.. even it say pr4 but on my mine might be pr3 hahahah

Hey thats my site. I was googling my site and this showed. I'll explain the tool. IT SHOULD NEVER BE USED FOR EVALUATION OF DOMAINS. It is just something I threw together, everytime a site is searched for future pagerank I record the results in my database. Once google updates the pr I will show how accurate (or inaccuarate) it was.
This was just my own personal experiment. I use the page rank alogorith found on wikipedia and use the first 100 sites that google shows that link to you.

Interesting Inet411. Would you share the results here after the update?