Hi guys

While i have turned over a new leaf in SEO and dont really watch my pr anymore, ever since ive started doing things differently, i have lost pr from 4 down to 2.

Is this somthing i should be worried about ? does it mean i am doing somthing wrong ?

Woc

If your not watching your PR, then you shouldn't be concerned about it. As long as your visitors number are staying the same or increasing, then you have nothing to worry about.

Like you will find many times on this forum, PR doesn't mean anything apart from providing you a little green bar and a number.

Am I right in seing web master-talk's pr droped? I have not seen any changes on my site.

Old habits die hard lol, my visitors hasnt changed much maybe down a little, but nothing major !

Woc

at this state, its better to ignore the changes with your PR. It does not affect anything on your site even if it increases or decreases.

Originally Posted by usearchme

Hi guys

While i have turned over a new leaf in SEO and dont really watch my pr anymore, ever since ive started doing things differently, i have lost pr from 4 down to 2.

Is this somthing i should be worried about ? does it mean i am doing somthing wrong ?

Woc

If your traffic isn't being affected and your SERPs are good then why worry about pagerank. Pagerank can be manipulated, concentrate on the important things.

Am I right in seing web master-talk's pr droped?

A couple of days ago a lot of sites saw the PR in their toolbar dropped. There's still a lot of questions about why, but most think it's a warning from Google about selling links without adding a nofollow to the link.

Most of the sites are reporting no change at all in rank or traffic, which has led some to surmise that the change has only been a manual change of what the toolbar shows and not the real PR behind the scenes.

There's also a lot of debate about Google's stance on buying and selling links in general.

There are 2 things which people are speaking about the lower in PR for the October update

1. Calibration of the PR scales
2. Link seller's are manually reviewed for some PR updates.

I don't remember the links to the threads but it was in digitalpoint forum and WMW

If you don't sell links you should be fine and if you do stop doing that as soon as possible.

DigitalPoint is about as credible a source as FOX News.

I don't have a lot to add to this other than to reiterate what others have said: if your search traffic is the same or higher than it was before the PR drop, let them knock it down to 0 if they want.

Personally, I'm looking forward to Google getting hardcore on paid links and suspect they're only firing opening volleys. It can only mean good things for me.

Adam how do you feel about people selling advertising on their site. Not specifically text links, but banner ads. Google seems to be insisting those are nofollowed as well. That's not going to be fair to all the mom and pops who are just trying to make a little extra cash to help pay for their site.

Originally Posted by vangogh

That's not going to be fair to all the mom and pops who are just trying to make a little extra cash to help pay for their site.

Their purpose isn't to be fair to the moms and pops of this world, or any other site owner; it's to provide good results for searchers. If mom and pop want to make money out of Google, they should follow Google's rules. The solution is simple - nofollow the links they sell.

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Most changes in PR is negative! Thats really odd!

Originally Posted by jlh

Digital Point Members put on Suicide Watch

lol

Originally Posted by vangogh

Adam how do you feel about people selling advertising on their site. Not specifically text links, but banner ads. Google seems to be insisting those are nofollowed as well. That's not going to be fair to all the mom and pops who are just trying to make a little extra cash to help pay for their site.

I don't have a problem with that, either, and have said so before. Going beyond Google, they should be doing so anyway in order to give advertisers a better idea of how many actual visitors they're sending, as opposed to bots. It still won't be accurate, as some bots will ignore the nofollow directive, but at least it'll be closer.

I don't think this has anything to do with bots or with Google improving search results. There are better ways for them to deal with the situation. For one they could simply stop showing toolbar PR. Do that and no one could buy or sell links based on it.

All this will do is move the buyers and sellers underground. If you and I spoke on the phone and decided to make an exchange of money for a link there's no way Google could ever detect that.

It is their search engine and they have the right to run their business any way they want, but I think they're going about this in the wrong way.

gringo if they want to provide better results they should go after the spamsense sites. Or do they not want to do that because those spamsense sites make a lot of money for Google.

I don't know what to say I went from a PR 3 to a PR 5 woot!

Mine also got RP3 frm unranked

Originally Posted by full house

Most changes in PR is negative! Thats really odd!

Well not really: http://www.ozfreeonline.com/resource...resources.html

Google isn't keen on anyone manipulating it's search index or messing with it's algorithms. Google advises AGAINST participating in link exchanges. Remove these links, forget link exchanges and work on improving your site for your visitors.

Originally Posted by vangogh

I don't think this has anything to do with bots or with Google improving search results. There are better ways for them to deal with the situation. For one they could simply stop showing toolbar PR. Do that and no one could buy or sell links based on it.

All this will do is move the buyers and sellers underground. If you and I spoke on the phone and decided to make an exchange of money for a link there's no way Google could ever detect that.

It is their search engine and they have the right to run their business any way they want, but I think they're going about this in the wrong way.

gringo if they want to provide better results they should go after the spamsense sites. Or do they not want to do that because those spamsense sites make a lot of money for Google.

I agree with you there, while its an issue with people selling links, i think there are bigger issues that they could crack down on.

Woc