Hello,

I've been trying to get my website
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on google's first page, but for some reason it just doesn't work.

Every time it comes near 11, it slips back to 15 and above.

Can any one tell me what should I try?

Hey,
have you registerd with google and their webmasters program where you can submit your sitemap.

Have you tryed meta keywords?

1) Stop rank checking. It's a useless exercise and won't establish a thing, other than that you like to waste your time doing things that don't reveal any useful information.

Different servers (and different datacenters) will come up with different orders for the same search query. Even the same server on consecutive days can do that, as data changes.

Check your site stats and see if you're getting traffic for the phrase "buy absinthe" (and I doubt you'll see much regardless...that's an odd phrase.)

2) You seem to bounce back and forth between English and what appears to be French on your site. Pick one and stick with it.

3) You have a links page with nothing on it. Do you plan on putting links that are useful to your site's visitors on it, or do you plan on doing something stupid like SEO-based link exchange? If it's anything other than the former, it will in all likelihood be a silly idea that should be scrapped.

4) You have trust issues with your site (specifically, no address and phone number). You'll want to fix those and make it easier for your users to order from a trust standpoint. Satisfy a user, they'll tell their friends either online or offline and you'll get more customers.

5) You misspelled "absinthe" on your home page.

6) Don't bother with link drops on forums like the one Hirst removed. Even when they "work", they don't do any good.

In addition to what Adam suggested, you might want to fix your layout - it breaks in firefox.

An admirable product to push! I checked out the testimonials and was disappointed to find coherent reviews. No sign of gibbering madness anywhere

Originally Posted by gringo

An admirable product to push! I checked out the testimonials and was disappointed to find coherent reviews. No sign of gibbering madness anywhere

Gringo just made me spit up my coffee.

It's not hard to get on the first page of Google. You can even get to the top of it. Try optimizing for the word lhwqgpowhgawl-ghw-aeoghwqpg. You'll be #1 in days.

That should both answer your question, and bring up a cautionary note. But it probably won't, so let me bore everybody and explain

1. You want to be on page 1 for buy absinthe. So do a lot of other people. They're all competing with you for a listing on page 1.
2. Nobody wants to rank for lhwqgpowhgawl-ghw-aeoghwqpg. Google can't even find a match, so this very post will be #1. It's easy because no one's competing for it, like a government no bid contract.

Thus answers why you're having trouble. But try to guess the number of people doing each search. Go ahead, I don't need super accurate numbers, just a ballpark will do. Probably a bunch for #1 and none at all for #2. And that should tell you something about the value of being #1. That it depends on what you're #1 for.

I haven't done any keyword research in your niche, but I wonder if there's a better p hrase to target? If I wanted some, I think I'd type something else, like "absinthe store" or whatever.

lhwqgpowhgawl-ghw-aeoghwqpg

You know, I think I've been through there?
Isn't it in South Wales?

Wherever the place is, it sure rolls off the tongue.

Hi there

I always thought it was spelt Absynth lol, or the green fairy as it is somtimes called !

Woc

Originally Posted by jonathanadams

Hey,
have you registerd with google and their webmasters program where you can submit your sitemap.

Have you tryed meta keywords?

I've a webmasters account, added to it recently.

We have been doing reciprocal links for the last 3 years.
3 months back started paid links and directory submissions.

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The paid links are doing you zero help, and 99 % of directory submissions are a waste of time.

It's not hard. I have a site listed in the top ten for a number of common two-word searches. Already got five or six people in about two days.

Hi there

Its bound to be hard to get into the top 10, as everyone else is also trying hard to stay in the top 10, so the competition is high !

Woc

It is the sheer competition at the top that push you down at each and every second. Although reaching the top may seem easy but staying there is the most difficult part

Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

99 % of directory submissions are a waste of time.

Which directories of the 1% aren't?

(Unless in the OP's case, it's alcohol directories?)

I'm not sure. ADAM keeps saying the Web Savy Directory (?) is an example. All kinds of other people say that about ODP. Fastreplies directory is actually kind of interesting.

Anyone in the know want to chime in on how to evaluate a directory for SEO? I would be more interested in how much traffic it sends, but you can't really tell until you try one.

I dont find it hard to rank well at all just time cionsuming I wont tell you what I do in this thread cos I will only get told it dont work as nobody on this forum likes people doing SEO.

If you want to know how I get all my websites to do really well in all search engines and generate traffic in other ways then hit me with a PM.

Johneva, I think you're missing the point here and I'm not totally convinced it's by accident. No one has a problem with SEO, if applied correctly; the problem is that most quality SEO work is also web design work, which flies directly in the face of the prevailing "get more backlinks" wisdom perpetuated by the follower crowd kissing the *** of the blackhat "leaders".

SEO as a standalone component is dying, and will continue to fade away. The last ones to know will be the dedicated SEOs themselves.

John, the answer I would give to your question is not to evaluate the directory in terms of SEO, but in terms of the traffic it will send vs. the cost required to get in. In other words, treat directories as traffic sources (i.e. ads). Any SEO benefit, actual or implied, is a bonus.

The ODP is a mythical animal in terms of traffic. It has long outlived its usefulness as a directory and sends next to no traffic (I haven't seen any more than one direct referral from DMOZ in the last 6 months for any of the sites I or my clients have listed). On the other hand, it's free so if you treat it as a ten-minute investment of time to find the "correct" (read: lowest possible) category and leave it at that, it becomes a low-risk low-reward proposition.

Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

Johneva, I think you're missing the point here and I'm not totally convinced it's by accident. No one has a problem with SEO, if applied correctly; the problem is that most quality SEO work is also web design work, which flies directly in the face of the prevailing "get more backlinks" wisdom perpetuated by the follower crowd kissing the *** of the blackhat "leaders".

SEO as a standalone component is dying, and will continue to fade away. The last ones to know will be the dedicated SEOs themselves.

Thats all well and good but most website designers suck at making websites and then there is a whole load of work needs doing by people who do SEO to fix it cos there are to many noob designers who dont even make there sites they use a template of some naf 1990 table layout website and just adjust the pictures for each site they sell.

This forum is always slaging off people who do SEO work cos they assume that all people who do SEO are money grabbing idiots, but they arent and I am often quite offended by the comments made on this forum, though lack of people understanding we are not all the same.

I have a huge problem with all the idiots that are selling naf designed websites but that dont mean I go around on the forums making out like all website designers are idiots cos I know very well that there are some out there who actually know what they are doing and can design a website properly.

Okay, that I'll agree with (and have been saying as such for years). The templated website thing has just got to go, and the crappy code that goes along with it.

The problem is that it isn't the perceived definition of SEO, nor is it the conventional "application" if you will. There's a direct quote attributed to Aaron Wall (and given the quote itself and the context I've seen it used in, I tend to believe it) that seems to sum up the prevailing attitude:

SEO is links and links are SEO

The people who believe THAT is the definition of SEO are idiots...and unfortunately, they make up the vast majority. You probably don't to hear that because it's your industry, and that's understandable. But that's the reality of the situation...the industry itself is tarnished.

What you're referring to goes beyond the conventional definition of SEO and refers exactly to what I'm talking about; the application of techniques that render SEO useless as a standalone industry. Code is design as well as SEO; if anything, it's more important as a design component than as an SEO component. That's why I said that SEO as a standalone component is dying...the elements integrate with each other.

Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

I'm not sure. ADAM keeps saying the Web Savy Directory (?) is an example. All kinds of other people say that about ODP. Fastreplies directory is actually kind of interesting.

"Interesting", that’s all you have to say?

To be serious our directory Categories First Page links have between 500 and 1,000 hits and Second, between 300 and 500 most likely because G. has in Index about 30,000 pages from our site and because of that we have lots of traffic.

Adam is right and 99% of Directories Mushroom Farms had no value what so ever, at least not now and if they survive until domain renewal date and mature one day, submitting your site to that kind of directories is waste of time or if you like gamble, then you can take a long shot.

BTW, if anyone think submitting link to ODP is hard job, then you never tried us yet


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