My website eWebDevelopment.net is relatively new (has been around for 2-3 months). As of now, I have a PR4, 1,370 google results for my company keyword "ewebdevelopment", and 11 backlinks. I anticipate a ton more once google does it's dance this month. Anyways... my question is....

When I type in ALLINTEXT:, ALLINANCHOR:, and ALLINTITLE: and enter some of my target keywords my website appears within the top 20 results out of millions for all these specific search techniques. This must mean my site is optimized well, correct? But, how come my site is nowhere to be found on google in terms of ranking well? I am not within the top 1,000 search results for any of my keywords. Does PR and backlinks have that great of an effect on rankings?

Anchor texted backlinks are the best SERP booster.

Write tons of unique articles related to what you are selling
or go to my site to get it
http://www.zongoo.com

PR is important! But anthor text is more!

PR rank and achor text kinda go hand in hand, you can't really compare one to the other.

PR is great for google , but i think many people gives much on this and they are not take care of the rest...

anchor text is very imprtand but what text? inbound or outbound links text?
i think both are very impo, but the links you have in your site for your site is a litlle more.

you have a keyword like "web design"... and a page called web design, at first create a dir /web_design , then make links and alt web_design who will go at a page called web_design/web_design.html

if in this page spider finds headings, alts etc. with your keyword name you will have reached the perfect optimization.

@bbot i notice that you have addwords in your site, thats helps a lot for google , even if they are saying that are not-)

your site is only 3 months, google and other SE have some "test period" for new sites... 3-6 months

after 6 months i think you will get a better PR at google and you will be out of your "test period" be sure you will see your site in the top if you continue to promote it, dont wory-)

our new web design company page has 0 page rank now, but in some keywords in search for greek language or .gr domains comes 1st 2nd and 3rd over from thousants of sites with PR 4,5,6

thats why i use very much in my links impo keywords... this page had been indexted form google before 2 weeks!
and its first when you search for "greek domain register"

http://www.google.com.gr/search?hl=e...a=lr%3Dlang_el

no PR, no links just clear optimization, and i m waiting google updates to get a good PR to be at top for global results.

Originally Posted by netaction

@bbot i notice that you have addwords in your site, thats helps a lot for google , even if they are saying that are not-)

Do you have any proof of this? Loads of people have suggested this but I have never seen a shread of evidence.

Originally Posted by nixies78@yahoo.

Do you have any proof of this? Loads of people have suggested this but I have never seen a shread of evidence.

i made my research on this..be sure
i am proffesional seo and thats my work, so i have notice that it helps on PR and may be general on SE... but dont expekt miracles... it just gives some help on seo.

anyway , google wants addwords to have clicks and earn more money, its their work to promote sites having addwords... the strange it would be if they dont.

google will never say that addwords gives seo points

Think I will remain scepitical, It would be stupid for google to do this, and would agaisnt their main goal of providing relevant content. None of the researching bodies that look into elements like this have come up with any suggestion that backs it up. And they do analysis and comparisons on thosands of sites and compare their ranking.

Originally Posted by netaction

i made my research on this..be sure
i am proffesional seo and thats my work, so i have notice that it helps on PR and may be general on SE... but dont expekt miracles... it just gives some help on seo.

anyway , google wants addwords to have clicks and earn more money, its their work to promote sites having addwords... the strange it would be if they dont.

google will never say that addwords gives seo points

mmmmmm.....sound interesting..even google give more traffic due to Adsense, you will loss some via click..(yes you get something like 0.05$)

@2003m2003
i will never gona use this **** for myself... if someone wants this and he think he can make profits from addwords i put it for him.
but my opinion is that addwords is a big trap

if you have a website that it can be proffitable with addwords that means that you will generate huge traffic.

lets say 10000 unique or 40000 - 50000 page views per day

with so much traffic i think its stupid to have a space of 100*600 pixels in your main page and not manage this space for other affiliates or pay banners

but i understand that addwords give some money without any work from webmasters and siteowners, its very easy to use them.

i m out of topic , i think

Originally Posted by fryman

Anchor texted backlinks are the best SERP booster.

Not only texted BLs but texted BLs from different C Class Ip addresses.
You often fing page with low PR above in SERP compare to pages with high PR. It depends on many things, but anchor text on BLs from different Class C IP Address is a major contributor...


Bythey for a new site, if its shown in allinachor, allintitle, allinurl, allintext.. It means you have done a good job, now all you need is to do increase your PageRank, and I think any fella with decent amount of money can get a Pagerank of 6 withinh 2-3 months with little bit of hard work. Above PR6 needs good knowledge, good contacts and other things to get going...

--Just my opinion---

Check out our link to us pages and see that we suggest a link for people to use on our sites. This back link will contain our highly desired key words, this results in good PR and good to great ranking for those keywords. I would suggest adding this option to your directory page. Also rework your description, it reads like a keyword list, you can do this but make it clickable. In otherwords draw them in since that is what is sometimes used in search results.
I also agree with nixies78, I'll remain scepitical and Serra is spot on, more depth means more search results, so write articles.

Originally Posted by nixies78@yahoo.

Think I will remain scepitical, It would be stupid for google to do this, and would agaisnt their main goal of providing relevant content. None of the researching bodies that look into elements like this have come up with any suggestion that backs it up. And they do analysis and comparisons on thosands of sites and compare their ranking.

Google doing comparison on thousand of sites.. I doubt a little.. They are having their algorithm which also google people knows... but ask any other search engine builder or programmer, doing comparisons .. isn`t a bit difficult for anyone...

Their main goal is providing relevent information, but after googlebot is a spider.. it has to rely on some machine fixed logic.

I think best bet is to rely on BLs coming from high page rank pages hosted on different Class C IP addresses and use good anchor text there...
Onsite optimization is used for secondary kywds...

And I am talking about where competition is more than 50,000 pages...

Google doing comparison on thousand of sites.. I doubt a little..

When I said doing comparison of thosands of site what I was talking about was the reseaching companies, take Web posisition pro, what they say they do is analysis thosand of site to determine what their what types keyphrase layout and any other element are the more efficeince to get to the first posistion in the search engines. The way I image they do this is get a bot that get the search engine results then spiderer each of those pages logging all of the elemenet then do this loads more time for hundered of search terms then using computer to compare then to find trends. I would image if having Google Ads on your webpage would get it a higher rating then people would have picked up on it. And they would have to work this into the algorithm and since seemingly minor changes in a algorithm can have some quite drastic effect given certain layout of variables, it would be very dangerous.

And if their were found out it would look very bad, if a less relevant website with google Adsense is placed above a more relevant website then that goes agasint the mission statment of providing the most relevant results. Also it makes then look under hand and profitering at the expensive of their services integrity.

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