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Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
Old 03-21-2008, 01:24 AM Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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Hi thr...

One of my websites got cached by google some time back but its not available on the search page....what mayb the reason...
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:00 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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Your site should have been indexed by search engine.

Try using this.
http://www.linkvendor.com/seo-tools/serps-position.html

cache means your site has been visited by the SE bots and was logged. They keep it as reference and when they come again to your site, they will compare your current site with the cache. Your PR also depends on this.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:06 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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NOTHING depends on the page being in the public facing cache.


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Hi thr...

One of my websites got cached by google some time back but its not available on the search page....what mayb the reason...
Do we take it that you mean, your pages were indexed but they don't rank anywhere?
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:08 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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@chris; what I meant was SE looks for activity on your website. The rank in SERPS should veries depending (yes, depending) on your site activities. That's why if you do SEO, they will suggest you to keep your site updated with new content.
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:45 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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they will suggest you to keep your site updated with new content.
And "they" would be wrong

Ranking absolutely does NOT depend on "site activities"

I'd suggest you stop listening to "them" whoever they might be.
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:13 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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What I know and have seen with some other sites of mine is that the rank is improved thru website activity and SEO...
But at least you get listed in their index...
I knw caching means that bots have scanned my pages once but what I dont get is why is it unavailable on search pages....
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:30 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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they will suggest you to keep your site updated with new content.
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And "they" would be wrong

Ranking absolutely does NOT depend on "site activities"

I'd suggest you stop listening to "them" whoever they might be.

Seems like "they" gave pretty much fair advice here Chris - you missed the point.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:19 PM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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Seems like "they" gave pretty much fair advice here Chris - you missed the point.
I don't believe so.

I have a site where the content simply hasn't changed at all in almost 3 years, The pages must still appear in the SERPs for the targeted phrases as the SEs continue to send traffic for these phrases. I have no idea where they "rank" because I simply don't care about or check "rankings".
If the flow of visitors suddenly "dried up" then I might take a look to see what if anything has changed.

Simply updating your site with "new" content will NOT improve ranking per se. It may of course get more or better results for different words/phrases. Similarly improving the existing content (optimising) should certainly improve the results/conversion from any given page. But it is the action of improving the content that is the factor, not just because it has been changed here and there.

For the most part SE bots & indexers have absolutely no idea if a page has "changed" or not.
We can take any page from a blog, directory, catalogue site or any other kind of site that is database driven or uses server side technology to create the page or has the URLs "re-written".
This type of page will always return a HTTP response that indicates the page was last changed at the exact time it was generated. So according to the only thing that bots can understand, this page has been recently updated.
Does this mean that it should now flag this page as "better" than a REAL static page that has exactly the same content but returns an "unchanged" response (304)? Assuming of course that all external factors are nullified.

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What I know and have seen with some other sites of mine is that the rank is improved thru website activity and SEO...
Lets not confuse two things here, SEO is the process of improving the pages for all kinds of users not just SE indexers.
If the "activity" is improving the pages then yes it should help

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I knw caching means that bots have scanned my pages once but what I dont get is why is it unavailable on search pages....
Nope. Bots "scanning" the page is crawling, Caching and indexing are separate processes.

A search engine index actually consists of very many datacentres which in turn consist of many servers. These servers, even within a DC, are rarely fully synchronised, if ever. So results will vary with each query often dramatically when a different DC or server responds to your query.
Some DCs/Servers may have the page indexed and/or cached, some may not have even had the page fed into their copy of the index.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:47 PM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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I knw caching means that bots have scanned my pages once but what I dont get is why is it unavailable on search pages....
My guess is that it's not unavailable. It's just not on the first page for a popular and competitive search term?
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:06 PM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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Chris thanks for that - I like it when the moderators give some real input and insight, instead of just berating lesser users.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:30 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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being cached has no difference with being indexed by a search engine

but

being in the search page is different you must first do something to rank your keywords to see your site in the search page...
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:18 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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NEWS BROADCAST!!!

My site is finally on the search page...
added a sitemap today and the results have been even better...
Thanks for the excellent info Chris...quite helpful...
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:24 AM Re: Difference between Caching & getting on search page??
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NEWS BROADCAST!!!

My site is finally on the search page...
added a sitemap today and the results have been even better...
Thanks for the excellent info Chris...quite helpful...
good thing for you...
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