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**sjwright** · 10-24-2008, 04:44 PM

Hi There

I've not long finished a site for a client (http://www.allturf.co.uk) and it has the facility for people to ask a question, and the question then appears on the page in question.

Problem was that this site was the first to use my new CMS which I've developed, and initially lacked any sort of image verification or naughty words filter (foolish I know, and there are both in place now!).

Some sort of spam bot then took it upon themselves to post links with naughty words to various rude sites. I have put a naughty word filter and a image verification system in place, and there hasn't been a naughty comment since.

Problem was, that I was on holiday when the rudies started appearing, and the client had not yet been trained on how to remove comments, so flyers and ads in local media went out telling everyone about this new and exciting web site, and they unfortunately were met with all the nasties!

I'm sure this has had a detramental result on Google's page ranking, and I need to know how to check that the bad words were not indexed with the site, and that it hasn't been black listed or anything like that, and how can I repair the damage! I'm no SEO expert, just a PHP developer, so any advice would be welcomed!

Thanks!

**chrishirst** · 10-24-2008, 05:06 PM

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.allturf.co.uk

Even if the comments were indexed, the next crawl would remove them

I would be more concerned about this:

HTML Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<meta name="keywords" content="All Turf Limited, Turf Supplies Cheshire, Domestic Garden Turf, Laying Service Cheshire, Knutsford, Professional Turf Suppliers, lawnturf growers association, congleton turf supplies, festival turf, rft, shade drought water logged turf, landscape architects, low maintenance turf, north west turf, wild flower, Sedum Turf roof, oxeye daisy, Grass Felt, Competitve prices, cheap, sports turf" />
<meta name="description" content="All Turf Limited, supplier and laying specialist for 10 grades of turf in the North West of England. Domestic, Commercial and sports turf, Award winning range of top soils, fertilisers and bark. We offer a wide range of specialist turf products." />
<title>Allturf Limited, Lawn Turf supplier to Cheshire including Knutsford, Warrington, Congleton and Northwich</title>

...........more page code 

            <a href="index.php?id=48678391"><img src="images/head_contact.png" alt="Contact Us" width="98" height="30" border="0" /></a></div>
    <div id="center_top"><img src="images/head_body.png" alt="head" width="900" height="25" /></div>
    <div id="stage">
      <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<link href="../css/page.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>

<body>

<div class="app_wrap">
  <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>

...........more page code 


          </tr>
        </table></td>
      <td class="col_2">

	    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
</head>

<body>

<div class="testimonal_ticker">


...................more page code

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<link href="../css/page.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />

</head>

<body>
<div class="app_wrap">


................. more code page

<script src="http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type="text/javascript">
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
_uacct = "UA-3887154-6";
urchinTracker();
</script>
</body>
</html>

**sjwright** · 10-24-2008, 06:34 PM

Hi, I had the wrong admin apps uploaded! thanks for pointing that out! Apart from that, and going back to my original question, where does the site stand after the spam bot nasties? is there anything you would recommend to get it fighting fit with google?

What are the changes of long-term listing damage due to the porno spam left in the comment section?

Thanks!

**chrishirst** · 10-24-2008, 07:54 PM

Quote:

What are the changes of long-term listing damage due to the porno spam left in the comment section?

Unless it was there for several months, none at all.

The biggest problem I can see at glance over is the old indexed URIs (?pageid=x) all return a HTTP 200 response and resolve to the "home" page. Make sure they return a 404 response or if they send useful traffic 301 redirect them to the appropriate page otherwise they will stick around in the index forever.
Changing all the URLs will have caused any "detrimental" listing effects you have seen BTW not a bunch of porn spam comments

**sjwright** · 10-25-2008, 04:51 AM

Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure how I could achieve a 404 here because the way in which the info is pulled from the db is different, also it is different db's used with completely new information, as very little of the old site was retained.
Any suggestions on achieving a 404 on dynamic sites?

Thanks again for the help and advice, its much appreciated

**chrishirst** · 10-25-2008, 07:50 AM

check for the pageid as the page loads and send a 404 if it exists

PHP Code:


			
if ($_GET["pageid"]) {

    header("HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found");

}

**whguru** · 10-29-2008, 12:15 PM

This is an interesting conversation. I admire your interest and attention to details, chrishirst.