Tycoon Talk
Become a Big fish!
The number 1 forum for online business!
Post topics, ask questions, share your knowledge.
Tycoon Talk is part of Freelancer.com - find skilled workers online at a fraction of the cost.

The Google Forum


You are currently viewing our The Google Forum as a guest. Please register to participate.
Login



Reply
Site with no backlinks
Old 12-27-2008, 10:54 AM Site with no backlinks
Skilled Talker

Posts: 62
Trades: 0
If I have a site with solid, original content but it had no backlinks at all, could it still get a good page rank? If so, how to bots detect good content?
__________________
//Installation of any script i.e. Wordpress, theme or plugin(s) included!
//99.9% Uptime//Live Support//Awesome Deals!

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
// VPS Starting @ $7 Shared @ $1
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
gray929 is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile
 
 
Register now for full access!
Old 12-27-2008, 03:25 PM Re: Site with no backlinks
chrishirst's Avatar
Missing! presumed drunk.

Posts: 42,380
Name: Chris Hirst
Location: Blackpool. UK
Trades: 0
No and they couldn't
__________________
Chris. ->>
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
<<-

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds
Thought for today:- Is SEO the only industry where all the cowboys are Indians?
chrishirst is online now
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit chrishirst's homepage!
 
Old 12-27-2008, 05:13 PM Re: Site with no backlinks
Average Talker

Posts: 17
Name: nill
Trades: 0
I don't think so, back links and good content both have same importance for page rank.
__________________
Neil

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE

Last edited by neil.small; 12-27-2008 at 05:15 PM..
neil.small is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile
 
Old 12-27-2008, 10:54 PM Re: Site with no backlinks
Skilled Talker

Posts: 62
Trades: 0
Then doesn't that seem like a flaw? The most relevant page to someone's search could possibly not be indexed because it has no backlinks.
__________________
//Installation of any script i.e. Wordpress, theme or plugin(s) included!
//99.9% Uptime//Live Support//Awesome Deals!

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
// VPS Starting @ $7 Shared @ $1
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
gray929 is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile
 
Old 12-28-2008, 12:05 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
Banned

Posts: 421
Location: Boston, MA
Trades: 1
If you would look at the pagerank algorithm you will see it depends on backlinks. So without that not possible. You can read more here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank
webcosmo is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit webcosmo's homepage!
 
Old 12-28-2008, 07:20 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
chrishirst's Avatar
Missing! presumed drunk.

Posts: 42,380
Name: Chris Hirst
Location: Blackpool. UK
Trades: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by gray929 View Post
Then doesn't that seem like a flaw? The most relevant page to someone's search could possibly not be indexed because it has no backlinks.
How?
If the site owner isn't going to advertise the site, why should Google?
__________________
Chris. ->>
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
<<-

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds
Thought for today:- Is SEO the only industry where all the cowboys are Indians?
chrishirst is online now
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit chrishirst's homepage!
 
Old 12-28-2008, 11:42 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
Banned

Posts: 421
Location: Boston, MA
Trades: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by gray929 View Post
Then doesn't that seem like a flaw? The most relevant page to someone's search could possibly not be indexed because it has no backlinks.
I agree with you, it is not a error-proof process. Its the search engines job to discover sites and content.

Using backlinks to determine PR is an erroneous process. Backlinks never could determine the PR of a site accurately. Look at all the talk on paid link, how people misused it and still doing it.
webcosmo is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit webcosmo's homepage!
 
Old 12-28-2008, 11:56 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
Skilled Talker

Posts: 64
Name: Daniel Lee
Location: Singapore
Trades: 0
If you got no backlinks, Google will not recognise that your site is important. Only when you have a lot of backlinks will Google acknowledge your sites are important and will bring up your Page Rank. If you got Zero backlink...most likely your PR is also Zero !
__________________

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
youngheart is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit youngheart's homepage!
 
Old 12-28-2008, 02:22 PM Re: Site with no backlinks
chrishirst's Avatar
Missing! presumed drunk.

Posts: 42,380
Name: Chris Hirst
Location: Blackpool. UK
Trades: 0
Quote:
Using backlinks to determine PR is an erroneous process. Backlinks never could determine the PR of a site accurately. Look at all the talk on paid link, how people misused it and still doing it.
Errmm??

PR being based on backlinks came first, idiots abusing came afterwards!!!
__________________
Chris. ->>
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
<<-

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds
Thought for today:- Is SEO the only industry where all the cowboys are Indians?
chrishirst is online now
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit chrishirst's homepage!
 
Old 12-29-2008, 04:02 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
Skilled Talker

Posts: 92
Name: Importexportus.com
Trades: 0
Do work in Off Page Optimization is really helpful to you.
__________________

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
||
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
||
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
||
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
||
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
importexportus is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit importexportus's homepage!
 
Old 12-29-2008, 06:40 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
micoblanco's Avatar
Super Talker

Posts: 124
Name: Mico Blanco
Trades: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by gray929 View Post
If I have a site with solid, original content but it had no backlinks at all, could it still get a good page rank?
NO because Page Rank or PR is a software/algorithm (some say it is an algorithm and some say it is a software) that measures the relevancy of a web page. It analyze the number of incoming links and the quality of the reffering web page to generate a measurement between 0 to 10. (0 as the lowest and 10 as the highest)
__________________


Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
-
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE


Last edited by micoblanco; 12-29-2008 at 06:43 AM..
micoblanco is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit micoblanco's homepage!
 
Old 12-29-2008, 10:02 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
chrishirst's Avatar
Missing! presumed drunk.

Posts: 42,380
Name: Chris Hirst
Location: Blackpool. UK
Trades: 0
Quote:
NO because Page Rank or PR is a software/algorithm (some say it is an algorithm and some say it is a software)
Only the truly clueless would ever call it "a software"!!

Quote:
It analyze the number of incoming links and the quality of the reffering web page to generate a measurement between 0 to 10. (0 as the lowest and 10 as the highest)
Not even close.

PageRank is a probability distribution so it's value can NEVER be more than 1. Only the unimportant, useless value as shown on the toolbar is between 0 and 10.
__________________
Chris. ->>
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
<<-

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds
Thought for today:- Is SEO the only industry where all the cowboys are Indians?
chrishirst is online now
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit chrishirst's homepage!
 
Old 12-30-2008, 01:12 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
seomax's Avatar
Skilled Talker

Posts: 65
Name: Mahendra Rajeshirke
Location: India
Trades: 0
i dont admit it that site must have atleast 1 backlink, seems like bline person must have sight for teach or learn,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

information is rather important than having a lots or atleast 1 backling,,

if i site is giving good info.. why should this site would not be indexed by google.....
__________________

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
seomax is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile
 
Old 01-03-2009, 07:54 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
mobilegame's Avatar
Extreme Talker

Posts: 185
Trades: 0
backlinks esp quality backlinks from related content are as important as content, google does not know everything to judge your content, so if you have quality backlinks google thinks your site is good too.

otherwise google never know whether or not your content is good!
mobilegame is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit mobilegame's homepage!
 
Old 01-03-2009, 08:29 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
Average Talker

Posts: 16
Trades: 0
Content is important, but backlinks will always carry more weight in the search engines. Well, Google at least.
ThemeFreak is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile
 
Old 01-03-2009, 09:04 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
Super Talker

Posts: 115
Name: Esdee Guillermo
Location: 'Pinas
Trades: 0
Having quality backlinks means having quality content.... At least for Google.
__________________

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
||
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
||
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE

esdee is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit esdee's homepage!
 
Old 01-03-2009, 09:11 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
chrishirst's Avatar
Missing! presumed drunk.

Posts: 42,380
Name: Chris Hirst
Location: Blackpool. UK
Trades: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by esdee View Post
Having quality backlinks means having quality content.... At least for Google.
Huh???

Or do you mean that only quality sites would be expected to get quality backlinks?
__________________
Chris. ->>
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
<<-

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds
Thought for today:- Is SEO the only industry where all the cowboys are Indians?
chrishirst is online now
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit chrishirst's homepage!
 
Old 01-04-2009, 09:22 PM Re: Site with no backlinks
Extreme Talker

Latest Blog Post:
Chocolate Dessert With Diamond
Posts: 247
Trades: 0
Backlink is important. Without it, your site could not rank well.
__________________

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE
|
Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE


Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE

ajcones is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit ajcones's homepage!
 
Old 01-07-2009, 07:48 PM Re: Site with no backlinks
Skilled Talker

Posts: 89
Name: Jane
Trades: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrishirst View Post
Huh???

Or do you mean that only quality sites would be expected to get quality backlinks?
Maybe that is what he mean.. hahaha
And correct me chris i am wrong that you will get quality backlinks from a quality posting or submissions if it is related.
__________________

Please login or register to view this content. Registration is FREE

avor is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile
 
Old 01-08-2009, 03:42 AM Re: Site with no backlinks
Skilled Talker

Posts: 73
Name: amerie
Location: South East
Trades: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by gray929 View Post
If I have a site with solid, original content but it had no backlinks at all, could it still get a good page rank?
having good and authority backlinks would probably give you a reasonable page rank.
amerie is offline
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Visit amerie's homepage!
 
Reply     « Reply to Site with no backlinks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





   
RSS Feed  Feeds: RSS   JS   XML
RSS Feed  Feeds for this forum: RSS   JS   XML



Page generated in 0.54310 seconds with 12 queries