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Old 06-07-2009, 12:11 PM Listing Gone
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I have been working on 2 keywords "Web Design". 3 months ago I was 378 then 175, and last month 78. Now I’m nowhere to be found. Even Google webmaster tools says I’m 103. Any Ideas why just this one listing would disappear? im top for all my other keywords.
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Rankings go up and down as a matter of course. If I were you though, I would refine the phrase you are targeting - "web design" is far too competitive. For example "web design london", or wherever you're based, will be more targeted and easier to rank for.
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It happens from time to time, usually you return in a couple of days, try not to panic it will not be the first time it happens lol !

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Old 06-08-2009, 12:58 AM Re: Listing Gone
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It's keyword fluctuation, it always happens to me especially on competitive keywords Just keep building your links.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:21 AM Re: Listing Gone
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Google changes its ranking algorithms very frequently, your case might be because of that. Even I have experienced the same thing in past, my website was back after two weeks.

The data in webmaster’s tools is often outdated, Google doesn’t updated it on real time.

Keep building quality back links from relevant content and wait.
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:00 PM Re: Listing Gone
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A two word keyword phrase will have lots of competition and any change in seo on any of your competitors will cause a change in serps for you.
I'd work on a three word keyword phrase until you are at least PR4 and then convert back to a two word phrase!
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:05 PM Re: Listing Gone
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It's keyword fluctuation, it always happens to me especially on competitive keywords Just keep building your links.
Exactly I call it the wave. The more the higher the pagerank brings more stability. Still kinda scary just to dissapear especially when I work so hard to get the results.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:17 AM Re: Listing Gone
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I'd work on a three word keyword phrase until you are at least PR4 and then convert back to a two word phrase!
I'm sorry, but I can't see a possible connection between pagerank and the length of the targeted keyword. No backlinks - no ranking. No content - no ranking. PR? You may rank, but not necessarily.
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Old 06-10-2009, 04:59 AM Re: Listing Gone
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I have been working on 2 keywords "Web Design". 3 months ago I was 378 then 175, and last month 78. Now I’m nowhere to be found. Even Google webmaster tools says I’m 103. Any Ideas why just this one listing would disappear? im top for all my other keywords.
The mentioned are not stabled positions... the first page is tabled.. and the site is new will take 1 yr to get a stable pos... so better do proper seo on tha period.. all the best
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:40 PM Re: Listing Gone
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To kick it all off now Google Web Master tools says Im 15. But still no where to be found.
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Old 06-15-2009, 12:34 AM Re: Listing Gone
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I have been working on 2 keywords "Web Design". 3 months ago I was 378 then 175, and last month 78. Now I’m nowhere to be found. Even Google webmaster tools says I’m 103. Any Ideas why just this one listing would disappear? im top for all my other keywords.
Your competition may have done better than you are this past few weeks. So your competition basically kicks you off the list. Try to maximize your link building activities. Web Design keyword is a high competitive keyword so you should not stop growing your backlinks. Else, you'll be out of the game.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:26 AM Re: Listing Gone
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You must be experiencing the google dance right now.. Google has been updating rankings thats why some of the results disappears.. Wait until google finishes updating.
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:32 AM Re: Listing Gone
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You can't get stable rankings in Google SERP.. If you want to get to your desired ranking you must continue building links..
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Old 06-22-2009, 01:03 AM Re: Listing Gone
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This happened to me also, do not know why.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:40 AM Re: Listing Gone
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I'm sure your searching on Google.com right?. It might be just a fluctuation, wait till tomorrow and check again. When your doing it right you can really get at the top but be sure not to get your site banned on Google.
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:37 PM Re: Listing Gone
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perhaps it could because of a spam based backlink strategy.

Maybe by spending a little more effort on the quality of your site, you'll see better results.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:14 PM Re: Listing Gone
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Stop trying to get backlinks by forum sigs, blog posting, article sites, etc.

Create content that people want to link to.

Yes, it is much more difficult. It's why few are successful. It is also much more effective.

Look, if those spammy techniques actually worked, I'd use an outsourcing firm to build several hundred sites, and I'd hire other firms to do all of the spam work. It's the kind of thing you can put on a credit card. It just wouldn't cost much money. If it really worked, I would do that and be rich.

If you are chasing the search engines, it's a never ending chase. It's like a dog trying to catch a car. Yahoo, Google, Microsoft, Ask Jeeves, etc employee huge numbers of developers to constantly change the search algorithms. None of them care about you (or me). They care about the people actually performing the search. Even if you found the perfect SEO solution, chance are, it probably wouldn't work tomorrow.

Chasing the search engines will leave your traffic ebbing and flowing with changes in the algorithms.

When you create content that people genuinely find useful, entertaining, and/or informative, they spread the word for you. You'll find that you get traffic from thousands of distinct sources instead of one (Google). You will find that you get the best kind of "backlink", the ones people actually click on.

I'm not saying don't ever leave blog/forum comments. Just make sure that if you do, you are genuinely contributing to the conversation.

some examples:
Several years ago, I wrote a post on creating XML software schedules. I left a comment on the internet ducttape blog where software for this same task was being reviewed. The post was updated, my solution was added to the list.
My quick and dirty solution ended up ranking 2nd. I've actually received (and continue to get) quite a bit of traffic from there.

When I posted about how to fix the quote tag <Q> in internet explorer, folks started linking to it from all over.

Want the coveted .edu link? Write stuff that professors want to link to. My page on rarely used html tags gets quite a bit of traffic from university sites.

Of course, I do get plenty of search traffic. The difference is, if all the search engines shut down tomorrow, I'd still be ok.

There's no easy way. If there was, everybody would be doing it, and it would cease to be effective. Focus on the hard work. Focus on the folks would will visit your site. Try to make their experience the best possible.
If you do the hard things, the easy things will take care of themselves.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:31 PM Re: Listing Gone
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Good advice will code and I agree it is a lot harder to do things that way, and its also hard to keep that hard work going !

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Old 06-24-2009, 02:28 AM Re: Listing Gone
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You don't get stable rankings on SERP.. If you need to get to top ranking, you need to build tons of back links - quality of back links..
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