yes it is right that google Page rank depend on quality backlinks and also there is a formula popular around the web for understanding the google PR algorithm

the formula is :
PR(A) = (1-d) + d(PR(t1)/C(t1) + ... + PR(tn)/C(tn))
You can find detailed information about this formula
on webworkshop[dot]net/pagerank.html

Thanks

I think it's possible that they will assign temporary page rank to a particular page based on how important they perceive it to be. An informative page which is highly related to a particular topic have all the right to be assigned a certain page rank.

Originally Posted by seogp

As stated by Google Page rank of website is calculated on the basis of number of back links. But i have found that there are few websites which don't have a single Back Links, But Still Google gave them PR. What this means ?

SIMPLE!

It's misinformed junk based on a incorrect idea.

just because the fairly useless link:url command shows no links it does NOT mean there are none.

"Backlinks" is not only reason on deciding PR. There are some other things too.
Good content too another key-thing which determines PR.

THE ONLY thing that affects the PR of any page is

BACKLINKS

Now keep repeating that until it finally sinks in

CONTENT DOES NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFFECT THE USELESS PR "value"

I once bought a 10 yr old domain, with 4 backlinks but it still had a PR3. Maybe age is a factor for PR as well?

Sometimes I have to wonder why we actually bother.
Why don't we just leave every body else flailing about in blissful ignorance while "we" (the ones who actually understand what SEO/SEM is really about) could carry on doing the "right stuff" and have our sites making money.

Originally Posted by baxy

I have not seen single website that has some PR without back links.

That is truth. You need to have good backlinks in order to get high PR. Then you might ask..how does wordpress.com have such high PR? The answer actually lies within some of there on page seo. For example they offer less spammy nofollow links, which was created by Google. Same with hubpages, squidoo, and other social web 2.0 blog/content platforms.

The answer actually lies within some of there on page seo

No it doesn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's because EVERY single page on every single Wordpress "blog" links back to Wordpress.org

But at least you proved my point from post #27

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Sometimes I have to wonder why we actually bother.
Why don't we just leave every body else flailing about in blissful ignorance while "we" (the ones who actually understand what SEO/SEM is really about) could carry on doing the "right stuff" and have our sites making money.

That reminds me of a thought that has been haunting me ever since I got a taste of what it's like participating in seo forums: for an enormously large part, these are pointless since

(a) cross-posting, bot-style and scraped posts annoy the hell out of you

(b) there's too much <quote>regurgitated drivel</quote> (i think this one belongs to Chris)

(c) I can't seriously believe anyone (knowing a thing a two about SEO) in their right mind would babble on and on about what they have achieved by the sweat of their brow. It's just not fair.

(d) It's sometimes difficult to get responses to even legit questions that to an SEO expert might appear to be ridiculous due to their being 101- haven't I been scolded

and (e) I think it would take a personal message from Matt Cutts himself to persuade some people that spamming communities is not "a good way to get links".

it might be the quality of the back links, not only the quantity

Google doesn't show or display all the details of the number of back links that you are getting, that's why you said that PR is not based on the number of back links.

The number of backlinks certainly plays a role, but Google also evaluates carefully the quality and relevancy of those links... i also do believe that it is not about backlinks, there are some other factors that affect Pr like the quality of the content...

Originally Posted by blackmamba

The number of backlinks certainly plays a role, but Google also evaluates carefully the quality and relevancy of those links... i also do believe that it is not about backlinks, there are some other factors that affect Pr like the quality of the content...

How, how is that even possible? Why do people insist on repeating this nonsense on and on and on and on. Stop it please, it makes my head hurt.

Originally Posted by azeemi

yes it is right that google Page rank depend on quality backlinks and also there is a formula popular around the web for understanding the google PR algorithm

the formula is :
PR(A) = (1-d) + d(PR(t1)/C(t1) + ... + PR(tn)/C(tn))
You can find detailed information about this formula
on webworkshop[dot]net/pagerank.html

Thanks

You have hit right on the head on the nail. Though PR is mainly dependent on the number of inbound links. It does not entirely dependent on this issue. Quality of content, volume of traffic and the reputation of that site also play a dominating role in this regard.

For GOODNESS SAKE!!!!!!!!

READ the formula!!! It is RIGHT THERE in front of you!!!!


Do you see anything in that calculation that says "Quality of content"??????

it is a MATHEMATICAL calculation!

or are you so desperate for signature links you have to demonstrate a lack of understanding to get them??

by the quality of the site,
you can get PR by linking high PR links towards yours. anyhow PR is total BS good luck try getting em.

I wish pagerank would just go away.

Wow when I thought I almost understood everything out, here's another one to get my mind confuse with. A lot have concluded that its the backlinks that really matters or at least is the highest contributor for your sites success. But how could a site have pr without having any backlinks???

Yes PR isnt based on number of backlinks.