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Old 06-18-2009, 02:06 PM The No-Follow Lie?
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I have noticing in the last 6 months so many sites are going to no follow links to gain Pagerank. What I am seeing just the opposite happening. Sites are loosing Pagerank instead. I have never No-followed any links, as a result my pages have remained steady in their Pagerank. I think No-Following links can create just the opposite effect. Has anyone else noticed a drop in Pagerank after no following links? I think it diverts the flow and has a backward effect.
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:46 PM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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Sites are loosing Pagerank instead.
You mean the coders at Google, with all their expertise and all their resources have messed up but you've spotted the bug? Or do you think nofollow is actually designed to reduce your PR and Google have tricked us into thinking it merely stops it being passed via nofollowed links?

Let me guess. You found a page whose PR has gone down and you noticed the presence of nofollowed links? Therefore nofollow causes PR to go down?

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Old 06-18-2009, 05:53 PM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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You mean the coders at Google, with all their expertise and all their resources have messed up but you've spotted the bug? Or do you think nofollow is actually designed to reduce your PR and Google have tricked us into thinking it merely stops it being passed via nofollowed links?

Let me guess. You found a page whose PR has gone down and you noticed the presence of nofollowed links? Therefore nofollow causes PR to go down?
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:51 PM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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I don't believe No-Follow links do the opposite effect for SEO, but they don't help. On the other hand, no-follow links can benefit for marketing and traffic generation. Most very popular sites and blogs choose to turn No-Follow, but they can still help you gain visitors.

I occasionally comment on no-follow blogs and their articles that I find interesting. I primarily focus on do-follow blogs for SEO.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:46 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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I think your problem with dropping in page rank is not because of nofollow links. Its just that google don't give credits to nofollow links and continuous nofollow linking without quality dofollow backlinks will definitely gives you a drop in page rank.
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Old 06-19-2009, 03:00 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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Perhaps it's the quality of their site and number of inbound links that contributed to the decrease of PageRank. I've never experienced loss of PR due to "nofollow" on outgoing links, I've done this to one of my blogs.
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Old 06-19-2009, 03:38 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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"Nofollow" provides a way for webmasters to tell search engines "Don't follow links on this page" or "Don't follow this specific link."


How does Google handle nofollowed links

We don't follow them. This means that Google does not transfer PageRank or anchor text across these links. Essentially, using nofollow causes us to drop the target links from our overall graph of the web. However, the target pages may still appear in our index if other sites link to them without using nofollow, or if the URLs are submitted to Google in a Sitemap. Also, it's important to note that other search engines may handle nofollow in slightly different ways.
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=96569
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Old 06-19-2009, 03:59 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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I have noticing in the last 6 months so many sites are going to no follow links to gain Pagerank. What I am seeing just the opposite happening. Sites are loosing Pagerank instead. I have never No-followed any links, as a result my pages have remained steady in their Pagerank. I think No-Following links can create just the opposite effect. Has anyone else noticed a drop in Pagerank after no following links? I think it diverts the flow and has a backward effect.
Didn't noticed that but as far as I know, if there is nofollow attribute in your link it doesn't hurt your site nor pass pr link juice to other site.
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:42 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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I have seen sites that started to use no follow and their PageRank went down.
I think it creates a nod.
And this simple observation gives you concrete proof of your theory, does it? What about all the inbound links to the page you were analysing - did its links stay they same? Did the PR they passed stay the same? Your theory must consider those factors as that is what affects PR.

I have seen pages that use nofollow and their PR went up. To draw the conclusion that PR increases because you use nofollow based on this observation alone is similarly ridiculous.
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:45 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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thank you for the nice comments ...look at the health and safety tips ......
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:00 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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No it is not because of nofollow submission.
I think if you continues updates your site than you may get your PR back. And also in next update you may get high PR for your site.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:59 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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I'm not getting any google PR from my no-follows links (many slashdot posts)
but it does pick up on yahoo, alexa, and bing. You're missing posts on the
biggest search engine, but get some on the other 20%.

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Old 06-21-2009, 02:34 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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I don't think what you noticed is true. PR isn't treated that way. Instead, some nofollow links are being counted as IBLs. I noticed that a month ago. But having nofollow attribute could decrease PR, that's just a false alarm I guess. Try to look out on the post of bogs. That should explain everything.
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:49 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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NoFollow links still has use..Google counts NoFollow links but it weighs less compared to DoFollow links..
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:06 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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i dont think backlinks with nofollow tag can be bad for your sites. try to looking for other factors.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:22 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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NoFollow links still has use..Google counts NoFollow links but it weighs less compared to DoFollow links..
No they don't. Google does not count nofollow links. Read this blog post by Matt Cutts: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/pagerank-sculpting/

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Old 06-23-2009, 04:52 PM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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I think other factors are to blame for the drop in page rank, probably not keeping up with seo, maybe blackhat techniques, etc.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:07 PM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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Strange issue!

People generally use “nofollow” to stop spamming on blogs or distributing right amount of PR to right pages in internal link structure. Nofollow is a product of search engines, if it will reduce the PR of any website then who will use it.

There are many other parameters in PR calculation and PR can be dropped because of any of them.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:19 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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Strange issue!

if it will reduce the PR of any website then who will use it.

There are many other parameters in PR calculation and PR can be dropped because of any of them.
Yes the first google maybe reduce to 0 as too many no follow links.

Maybe lack of follow links but too many no follow links may cause the PR reduce.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:32 AM Re: The No-Follow Lie?
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Getting back links on NoFollow sites will give you chances of getting higher PR value but it weighs less compared to relevant sites.. You need to work hard in order to achieve your goals if your getting back links on NoFollow sites..
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