Ok, I have seen many, many articles and threads about the magical PR update and how some are happy and some are sad. So I have a little story for you all:

I have a site that is about 3yrs old, it is strictly and informational blog having to do with home improvement (no products). On this last update, it went from a PR3 down to a PR2 for the home page and all 1000 internal pages are either PR0 or PR n/a.

This site ranks for some HIGHLY competitive terms, gets 90k unique visitors and over 200k pageviews monthly.

I have multiple revenue sources for it, but just to tell you about one of them (Adsense) provides over $2k per month, and that is only 40-50% of the revenue for the site.

I have never posted a signature link in a forum to this site, never posted a comment on a do-follow blog, and I don't submit to ANY article directories.

So, tell me why I should worry about that Toolbar PageRank again?

PageRank does not = money, plain and simple.

$133 perday with 6,500 visitors, each visitor makes you $0.02

Originally Posted by ThailandForum

$133 perday with 6,500 visitors, each visitor makes you $0.02

I guess that is a bad thing? And remember I said that is only a part of the income for that site. I have another site that is also a PR2 that consistently makes me $4-5k per month off 1100 unique visitors.

The point is that stupid PR doesn't make you any money.

Originally Posted by FenceGuy

The point is that stupid PR doesn't make you any money.

Page Rank has NO RELATION to either website's SERP nor Profits.

Originally Posted by francis84

Page Rank has NO RELATION to either website's SERP nor Profits.

Person you quoted already said that?

Fenceguy, how did you get your traffic, might I ask? :-/

Originally Posted by yuechen

Fenceguy, how did you get your traffic, might I ask? :-/

90% of it comes from search, it helps that I have 900+ articles on the site and have worked a steady on page SEO and link building srategy....

Yeah, 900+ defs helps! link building strategy? :P Care to share? I've found that people tell you all the time to "build links!" but how does one really go about it?

This is interesting care to share some tricks?

for me it doesn't really care anymore but it still worries whenever my site lost PR because I feel that it also loose its quality... for me, what's important is traffic to get sales.

HOW exactly can a site lose or gain "quality" with the fluctuations of the SGB "value"

Actually, On googles blog. PR does influence rank in the SE.
HOWEVER it only does so on the .com domain and in the english lang.

It accounts for 1% of the weight ( so its barely worth noting )

They only mention this as they are now taking into account your page load time and ranking PR based on this also.

On googles blog. PR does influence rank in the SE

Yep!

REAL PR NOT the useless PR shown on the SGB!!!

Originally Posted by dWhite

Person you quoted already said that?

I just give emphasize on what he said.

Hello FenceGuy I have little bit idea about link building. But this is something new like earning from your own site. I need you help if you provide me tutorial regarding how to do all such stuff. Till date I was thinking that page rank plays vital role in search. I think that you had made something completely new.

Originally Posted by FenceGuy

Ok, I have seen many, many articles and threads about the magical PR update and how some are happy and some are sad. So I have a little story for you all:

I have a site that is about 3yrs old, it is strictly and informational blog having to do with home improvement (no products). On this last update, it went from a PR3 down to a PR2 for the home page and all 1000 internal pages are either PR0 or PR n/a.

This site ranks for some HIGHLY competitive terms, gets 90k unique visitors and over 200k pageviews monthly.

I have multiple revenue sources for it, but just to tell you about one of them (Adsense) provides over $2k per month, and that is only 40-50% of the revenue for the site.

I have never posted a signature link in a forum to this site, never posted a comment on a do-follow blog, and I don't submit to ANY article directories.

So, tell me why I should worry about that Toolbar PageRank again?

PageRank does not = money, plain and simple.

So can u tell us why your site ranks well on those HIGHLY competitive terms? I dont think its just because you have a PR2 homepage and lots of PR0 or PR n/a pages?

Google said that pagerank is just for entertainment. Nowadays that is probably true because the engine has become so much more advanced. In the past, it probably mattered much more but now Google updates there algorithms too much for PageRank to be really significant nowadays.

Originally Posted by John Baker

Google said that pagerank is just for entertainment. Nowadays that is probably true because the engine has become so much more advanced. In the past, it probably mattered much more but now Google updates there algorithms too much for PageRank to be really significant nowadays.

But Page Rank is very useful when it comes to placing links on other sites. High PR sites with little external links will deliver you link juice.

And if you are selling ad space, links PR will be important!

Page Rank has no relation with website's SERP. can you help me how to get 90k visitors per months?

High PR doesn't help with SERPs.... yet high PR backlinks DO help with SERP? Can anyone explain this?