Google updated backlinks finally! Here are the current data centers that have been updated thus far. Here are the current updated data centers so far:

216.239.39.99
216.239.37.104
216.239.37.147
216.239.37.99
66.102.11.99
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.161.105
64.233.161.147

Our site only jumped up by about 100 links. Not as well as I was hoping! They don't display all backlinks though - so I guess It doesn't say much. How'd everyone make out??

mine are still changing.. but it looks like they got abotu 1/10 of the backlinks I have.. REALLY pisses me off

got about 50 more which is really fine by me since i havent done anything to get more backlinks.

not bad.. i got 17 more and i worked my butt off... they only show forum links.. i have SO many more..

Mine jumped up about 80 or so, but when I search Google for "Powered by SearchBliss" in quotes I get 1,240 linking to my free content. If I search for "SearchBliss" excluding inward links I get 9,220 linking to my site.
You can check your backlinks on their data centers here:
Google Backward Links Checker

when was the last update?
refresh my memory!

I believe last update was around the 28th of October, 2004?

This is killing me, I cant belive the number of links its not showing...

Originally Posted by TaylorAtCTS

This is killing me, I cant belive the number of links its not showing...

Before you get upset check your Yahoo and MSN links and rankings.

I was pretty ****** when my Google rank dropped to 224 for my main keyword for my pop under exchange website. But when I checked my rank on yahoo I noticed I was #1 and it shows up top ten for 5 other keywords.

Google is what 30% of the search market. So if you consider that the penalties that are implied by Google aren't a consideration in most of the other search engines ranking algorithms. You are still getting visitors from alot of other search engines (the other 70% of the market)

Anyway, I picked up 3 more links on my Google backlink count. 86 out of about 1100. I suspect that they count those links but they don't show you all of them.

webspace,
You make a good point, and now with the new NSN search, this 70% is sure to increase. But I certainly wouldn't exclude Google.

well our back links fell by about 80 !

We have about 800 showing now out of well over 5000 so i find the whole thing with Google utter, utter cr@p

Meanwhile they have at least got around to updating google directory.

What i did find interesting is that when you look at sites in the directory in relation to PR you get some PR5 sites listing higher than other PR5 sites. So can we can safely conclude that Google uses a different PR to what we see?

Originally Posted by kline11

webspace,
You make a good point, and now with the new NSN search, this 70% is sure to increase. But I certainly wouldn't exclude Google.

Google is still the zenith of SEO ventures. I try to do my SEO to get traffic from Google but I alway seem to get alot better rankings on other search engines.

I will say that Google is still the standard when it comes optimizing your website because it is one of the largest if not the largest search engine at any given time, not to mention it is the toughest to optimize for.


I think RichTC also brings up a good point because Google gives pretty good results for some searches but on some searches you get alot of spammy results.

According to the reps at Google that I have conversed with shortly via email the results are not in any way manipulated by humans so it falls onto the shortcomings of the searh algorithm to make the results worthwhile. Do to the purely mathematical nature of Google search results they can be manipulated by people who are good at.

From what they told me they wirte more stuff into the general algorithm but the don't actually penalize specific offeding sites.

i have 26x the number of links on yahoo and MSN than I do on google...

Is google really only 30% of the market? That's nuts! I thought they were much higher than that.

Google search statisics pretty hard to find, every time I think of a new querry about searh engines I get either some spam from some SEO company or something from Google about google searches. The relevant articles I am finding are from february 2003 so they are no good.

Google has been expanding their reach into other markets lately. Google isn't just search anymore. They own satelite imaging and blogging, and email.

Here an article I recieved today.

http://www.bizreport.com/news/8655/

At any rate Google will still be a major player for some time to come, but whether Google will dominate the searh market is another question.

It's funny you mention Yahoo and MSN because I am on page 7 in google, after being on page 4 a few days before that in a search for horror movies. and on AOL, I'm on page 5.Yahoo and MSN on the other hand, I'm not even in the top 10 pages in a search for horror movies.

Originally Posted by Nic-ky

It's funny you mention Yahoo and MSN because I am on page 7 in google, after being on page 4 a few days before that in a search for horror movies. and on AOL, I'm on page 5.Yahoo and MSN on the other hand, I'm not even in the top 10 pages in a search for horror movies.

Your optimizing for a pretty commonly searched keyword. There are 13,000,000 results for horror movies and only few hundred thousand searches per month for that term from all search engine. So the number of searhes versus the number of competing sites is not so good if you are on the top 100 page for 13 million results you are doing pretty good. The bottum line is just keep adding content to the site and getting new sites linking in. But if you are in the top 7 pages of Google for that keyword I'm sure you know that.

These are the inbound links for the number one site for "horror movies"
Alltheweb 12,600
AltaVista 16,900
Google/AOL 45,900
HotBot 653
MSN 1,910
Yahoo 16,900

You might try using less commonly searched keywords. For the 45,000 backlinks you will need to get you could dominate the searches for 100s of smaller keywords and get the same amount of traffic. Maybe I'm not looking at the stats right. But I looked up some keywords on Overture you might get some traffic from these keywords.

tougher keywords
41575 horror movie
4676 upcoming horror movie
2868 horror movie poster
1231 best horror movie
1032 new horror movie
1001 horror movie trailer
958 upcomming horror movie
936 horror movie review
713 horror movie list
698 amityville horror movie

Easier keywords
574 japanese horror movie
537 horror movie trivia
531 up coming horror movie
514 horror movie wallpaper
480 classic horror movie
374 horror movie picture
358 the last horror movie
348 2004 horror movie
346 horror movie clip
340 horror movie dvd
333 top horror movie
327 old horror movie
323 horror movie t shirt
312 movie little shop of horror
302 horror movie news
285 1986 movie little shop of horror
282 horror movie picture rocky show
251 100 best horror movie
248 top 10 horror movie
239 horror movie pic
229 horror movie prop
228 top 100 horror movie
211 80s horror movie
211 horror movie quiz
210 horror movie sound
196 2005 horror movie
195 asian horror movie
193 b horror movie
192 history of horror movie
188 horror movie script
187 horror movie theme
185 download horror movie
177 free horror movie
173 horror movie shirt
167 strange horror movie
159 horror movie web site
158 upcoming horror movie 2005
146 download free horror movie
137 christmas horror movie
136 coming horror movie soon
132 horror movie screensaver
130 horror movie new release
128 horror movie quote
127 erotic horror movie
123 clip horror movie sound
123 horror movie site
121 horror movie poster vintage
120 2004 horror movie upcoming
120 horror movie trivia question
118 horror movie soundtrack
117 doll horror movie
111 best horror movie of all time
111 scariest horror movie
111 top ten horror movie
110 horror movie action figure
109 1970s horror movie
109 horror movie theme song
107 horror movie collectible
107 horror movie wavs
103 good horror movie
103 horror movie rental
102 banned horror movie
101 horror movie music
100 horror movie ringtone

Really easy search terms
98 crave horror movie we why
97 best ever horror movie
94 horror movie database
94 horror movie scary
93 1980s horror movie
91 how to make a horror movie
89 classic horror movie poster
87 70s horror movie
85 horror memorabilia movie
85 the horror movie saw
84 horror movie torrent
81 audition horror movie
81 horror movie recent
80 1950s horror movie
78 character horror movie
78 horror movie merchandise
78 new horror movie trailer
78 horror movie sale
75 2003 horror movie
75 adult horror movie
74 horror movie photo
73 amityville horror movie trailer
72 convention horror movie
72 horror movie tv
71 game horror movie trivia
70 horror movie stills

^are you just using overture's word tracker for those numbers?


Also...

Where do you go to check the data centers?

Originally Posted by bbott

Google updated backlinks finally! Here are the current data centers that have been updated thus far. Here are the current updated data centers so far

Where do you get the data centers? I'm not really familiar with this

Originally Posted by seank1

^are you just using overture's word tracker for those numbers?

The link popularity comes from marketleap and the search stats are from the overture search term suggestion tool.

lso... Where do you go to check the data centers?

I don't really know. So I will ask the same question. bbot might tell us.

Originally Posted by webspace

Your optimizing for a pretty commonly searched keyword. There are 13,000,000 results for horror movies and only few hundred thousand searches per month for that term from all search engine. So the number of searhes versus the number of competing sites is not so good if you are on the top 100 page for 13 million results you are doing pretty good. The bottum line is just keep adding content to the site and getting new sites linking in. But if you are in the top 7 pages of Google for that keyword I'm sure you know that.

These are the inbound links for the number one site for "horror movies"
Alltheweb 12,600
AltaVista 16,900
Google/AOL 45,900
HotBot 653
MSN 1,910
Yahoo 16,900

You might try using less commonly searched keywords. For the 45,000 backlinks you will need to get you could dominate the searches for 100s of smaller keywords and get the same amount of traffic. Maybe I'm not looking at the stats right. But I looked up some keywords on Overture you might get some traffic from these keywords.

tougher keywords
41575 horror movie
4676 upcoming horror movie
2868 horror movie poster
1231 best horror movie
1032 new horror movie
1001 horror movie trailer
958 upcomming horror movie
936 horror movie review
713 horror movie list
698 amityville horror movie

Easier keywords
574 japanese horror movie
537 horror movie trivia
531 up coming horror movie
514 horror movie wallpaper
480 classic horror movie
374 horror movie picture
358 the last horror movie
348 2004 horror movie
346 horror movie clip
340 horror movie dvd
333 top horror movie
327 old horror movie
323 horror movie t shirt
312 movie little shop of horror
302 horror movie news
285 1986 movie little shop of horror
282 horror movie picture rocky show
251 100 best horror movie
248 top 10 horror movie
239 horror movie pic
229 horror movie prop
228 top 100 horror movie
211 80s horror movie
211 horror movie quiz
210 horror movie sound
196 2005 horror movie
195 asian horror movie
193 b horror movie
192 history of horror movie
188 horror movie script
187 horror movie theme
185 download horror movie
177 free horror movie
173 horror movie shirt
167 strange horror movie
159 horror movie web site
158 upcoming horror movie 2005
146 download free horror movie
137 christmas horror movie
136 coming horror movie soon
132 horror movie screensaver
130 horror movie new release
128 horror movie quote
127 erotic horror movie
123 clip horror movie sound
123 horror movie site
121 horror movie poster vintage
120 2004 horror movie upcoming
120 horror movie trivia question
118 horror movie soundtrack
117 doll horror movie
111 best horror movie of all time
111 scariest horror movie
111 top ten horror movie
110 horror movie action figure
109 1970s horror movie
109 horror movie theme song
107 horror movie collectible
107 horror movie wavs
103 good horror movie
103 horror movie rental
102 banned horror movie
101 horror movie music
100 horror movie ringtone

Really easy search terms
98 crave horror movie we why
97 best ever horror movie
94 horror movie database
94 horror movie scary
93 1980s horror movie
91 how to make a horror movie
89 classic horror movie poster
87 70s horror movie
85 horror memorabilia movie
85 the horror movie saw
84 horror movie torrent
81 audition horror movie
81 horror movie recent
80 1950s horror movie
78 character horror movie
78 horror movie merchandise
78 new horror movie trailer
78 horror movie sale
75 2003 horror movie
75 adult horror movie
74 horror movie photo
73 amityville horror movie trailer
72 convention horror movie
72 horror movie tv
71 game horror movie trivia
70 horror movie stills

Thanks for the info.