Hi

First time here, I dont know how I missed it before! ...excellent forum!

I have a forum with url as a subdomain: forums.domain.com
Although my domain index page had PR5, the forum, which has its link in the index page, gets only 2, although the index page has no other links but the forum's.

My question is: is it better if the forum had its url as: domain.com/forums
does that makes it have a better PR in google, inherited from the domain index page?
or is it the same, be it forums.domain or domain/forums?

Hi,

Forget about PR and that green bar. It has zero effect on where you list in the SERPs. Its your position in the Search Engines that count not the PR of your home page.

Keep things as they are, just work to improve the content on your main home page and in time your home page will improve its PR anyway.

I dont have any solid evidence, but I think domain/forums is better

Deffinatly, always lived bye this. I also believe this is the reason very few webmasters use subdomains.

Originally Posted by myshtern

I dont have any solid evidence, but I think domain/forums is better

My question is: is it better if the forum had its url as: domain.com/forums
does that makes it have a better PR in google, inherited from the domain index page?
or is it the same, be it forums.domain or domain/forums?

There is hardly or no difference between forums.domain.com / domain.com/forums.

I dont have any solid evidence, but I think domain/forums is better

Not really. Both are equal and there is no difference between the two.

Deffinatly, always lived bye this. I also believe this is the reason very few webmasters use subdomains.

Mainly people uses subdomains to get the estimate of the traffic and not for entirety and mainly all forums have very few such huge setups such that they need the stats for all.

you will see Google, yahoo, MSN uses a subdomains more impressively than anyother site as they are such huge that they need how many users are using the SE/Mail....

This is my personal beliveve and experience and not intended for negative feelings on anyone.

Thanks
Shabbir Bhimani

I created a sub domain http://seo-tools.searchbliss.com/ to point to my seo tools on the same IP as http://www.searchbliss.com/ and noticed that Google treated them as seperate sites and the sub domain never showed in the SERP's. I then changed then links to point to http://www.searchbliss.com/seo-tools/ and found better results.

Which is better for PR inherit, subdomain or directory? Actually neither.

www.cj-design.com has the best implementation of PRinherit I've seen to date. Site modules are addressed via URL name/value pairs. Since the additional modules are just extensions of the index url, the PR is the same for the entire site.

Thanks metho. In answer to your initial question sallam; I use http://forum.cj-design.com (subdomain) and have a PR of 5 with my www.cj-design.com getting a 7. I think generally it is hard to achieve a high PR with a forum, unless you are PHPBB!

I wouldn't say "www.site.com/forum" was any different to "forum.site.com" - as shabbirbhimani pointed out.

As RichTC says, PR isn't the main factor in how well you rank in Google - unique content is essential. This might help to explain more:

http://www.cj-hosting.com/index.html...ncreasetraffic

Well google some times tricks me too try searching my site`s page rank

one with http://www.sr-ultimate.com which shows PG 1

and now with only http://sr-ultimate.com shows PG 3

Thats strange - but I notice that (in your signature) you link to http://sr-ultimate.com - so if you do this elsewhere Google will think your site cannot be accessed with www. infront of it. A PR of 1 suggests Google doesn't ever crawl http://www.sr-ultimate.com - only http://sr-ultimate.com.

If it bothers you, you could write a PHP header call with:

if(!strstr($_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']), "www")
{
header("HTTP/1.1 301 moved permanently");
header("Location: http://www.sr-ultimate.com".$_SERVER["REQUEST_URI"]);
header("Connection: close");
}

and stick that at the top of your pages. Note: above code has not been tested.

OK u can tell me something here

IF i change all the links I can, to www. won`t reduce the other page rank from 3 ?

hypothetically it will decrease but I think generally people stick www. in domain names by default - so aim to get higher PR with www.

anywhere you can, keep the link the same... http://www.postring.net/seforums/index.php http://www.postring.net/seforums http://postring.net and http://postring.net/index.php are all considered to be different pages and each earn PR independantly. If you keep all of your links the same, you will improve on one of them rather than trying to improve 4, which will make it a lot easier to get a high PR.

Originally Posted by cjdesign

Thanks metho. In answer to your initial question sallam; I use http://forum.cj-design.com (subdomain) and have a PR of 5 with my www.cj-design.com getting a 7. I think generally it is hard to achieve a high PR with a forum, unless you are PHPBB!

PR has nothing to do with the internal of how the page is generated and its totally dependent on backlinks. We here have achieved even PR 10 with just a one line of test text on the page.

Originally Posted by shabbirbhimani

PR has nothing to do with the internal of how the page is generated and its totally dependent on backlinks. We here have achieved even PR 10 with just a one line of test text on the page.

Hi shabbirbhimani, I don't think you understand the nature of the question. Incidently, what was this site that achieved a PR 10?

I would agree with Kline

Originally Posted by kline11

I then changed then links to point to http://www.searchbliss.com/seo-tools/ and found better results.

and azkul that keeping the search bot going in the same direction is best. Also, if you are able to get high PR sites to link directly to your forum, in the above example, it will raise the PR. Hope this helps...

Originally Posted by cjdesign

Hi shabbirbhimani, I don't think you understand the nature of the question. Incidently, what was this site that achieved a PR 10?

May be the answer was not clear probably.

here its again

I think generally it is hard to achieve a high PR with a forum, unless you are PHPBB!

No software like PHPBB / vB can get you any PR boost and its totally depends on the backlinks and no other factors.

I meant unless your website is www.phpbb.com not unless you use PHPBB software.

(because phpbb.com gets thousands of backlinks - everyone who uses their software links to them!)

Originally Posted by cjdesign

I meant unless your website is www.phpbb.com not unless you use PHPBB software.

(because phpbb.com gets thousands of backlinks - everyone who uses their software links to them!)

Yes then its true.