Hello,

Sorry if this issue has been raised before.. I'm new in this forum

I recently opened a forum (on Nov. 27th 2006) and today there are about 250 posts already. I have submited a sitemap (600 links) and I made a robot.txt file.

Here's my concern.. it has been over a week now and I am still not indexed on google. When I search my website on google, I get all the links back from other websites but I do not see my site :S

Now I went in the Google Webmaster Tools, verified my site and submited my sitemap. Here's what google is telling me:

• No pages from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for webmasters and webmaster guidelines. [?]

• Googlebot last successfully accessed your home page on Nov 2, 2006.

• You have submitted 1 Sitemaps. You have no Sitemap errors.

So what I don't understand is that the googlebot accessed my page but did not index it ? How come ? Is it normal it's taking time..
my site is http://www.multimontreal.com

I appreciate the help

It's normal for google to not index a site for some time after they spider it.
Give it a couple weeks and Work on getting backlinks.

Thanks for your reply stOx !

I'll wait some more ..

Ramstyle,

Google's Cache

Looks fine to me. It was last spiddered on 11/2/06. Maybe this was the first time but it's in there..

A week..!!??!! It does take a while. A site map doesn't knock on their door and they send googlebot right over to get you into the index. Plus the aging delay is going to kick in if it is a new site.

SUGGESTION: If you have a site map with 600 links on it Google is never going to spidder all the pages on that page. It will time out.. You are better of setting up 6 or 7 sitemape pages. No more than 100 links on each. Set up a master sitemap page that links to each of these..

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If you are using Google's Sitemap feature just set up 6 or 7 sitemaps with no more than 100 links on each.

Forgot to mention...

Your site is being cached for both the www version and the non-www version. In time you should probably have your site administrator set up a 301 redirect for the non-www version of your site to get sent to the www version. This will keep you from leaking link juice.

Thanks for the reply Chip !!

I am still not on google although I have some links back and growing..
http://www.google.com/search?q=multi...1&start=0&sa=N

I have reduced the number of links in my sitemap to 5 links for now.. just to see..
I'll ask for the 301 redirect...

I am indexed on yahoo for some reason and i am getting nice traffic.. But nothing from google yet
I guess patience is required in this case.. I just hope I didn't miss a step or anything.

The reason I was surprised why I wasnèt indexed so fast is because I had another site (zidane.ca) and it was indexed on google in 3 days !!

Don't worry. It can take a while for Google to display the indexed pages.

I started a directory in the first week of May. GoogleBot was visiting the site, but it didn't start to show up in the index for about 3 weeks, and then it was just a few pages. The rest of the pages showed up over a month later and the cache dates were all for the first week of May.

Watch the indexes in both MSN and Yahoo. They are much better at displaying index updates quicker.

Hi again,

I am still being patient waiting for google to index me...
I have two concerns and I don't know if that has to do with why it is taking that long...

1 - When I login to google sitemaps and click on Index Stats and then click on
link: Pages that link to your site link:www.multimontreal.com
I get ZERO links !! But that's not the real case because there are many sites linking back to my site! Try MultiMontreal and www.MultiMontreal

Any ideas why the link inside google sitemaps is returing 0 links back ?

2 - I downloaded the software from http://www.sitemapbuilder.net/ to create sitemaps.. When I type in http://www.multimontreal.com I get one link in the sitemap (the main page). When I type http://multimontreal.com I get over 1000 links !! Any one knows why when I enter www. I only get one link ?

Your help is always appreciated !

Thanks

Sorry to butt in on the subject but, i myself have a new website and google doesnt pick up the right keywords that i have listed, and one other thing is i was goin around tryin to check my PR and this thing said something like PR - 1 now this can mean one of two things either a step in the right direction or one in THE WRONG direction. now why this brings concern is because i used to be able to type in my website Local Photo Ratings and ALL the time like clock work my site would pop up www.LocalPhotoRatings.com but ever since i saw my PR rank at
PR - 1 I cant find my site ANYWHERE, PLEASE HELP

to localphotoratin;
What makes you think the search engines would want to list yet another dating / ratemyphoto site among the thousands of others.
Is there something unique or interesting about yours???

Nope!

It's just another turnkey site the same as all the rest

Make it unique or dump it.

you must wait . google doeas not make web sites visible after the crawl

Read this article. It is concerning the Google sandbox.

http://www.softwaremarketingresource.com/article55.html

I had a problem like that . It does take awhile. Do you Know what your google rating is?

google rating? what you mean ranks?

He is probably talking about PageRank called PR by short. This is a number that Google assigns a page. It is a VERY SMALL part of their algorithm.

Some people talk about this as if it is really worth something. It is a lot of hype. So much that I think they should charge a fine to anyone who talks about it! But, people just won't let it go.

How important is it?

Worrying about PR is like deciding to brush your teeth for 125 seconds instead of 120 seconds. Is 5 more seconds going to clean your teeth more. Well sure it will. But, is it a measurable difference? No!

I hate to yell but really, DON'T WORRY ABOUT PR..!!
Don't use the Google toolbar and quite looking at your own page PR or that of other site's pages. Don't worry about buying links from Web site's with higher PR and don't pay more for links that come from sites with higher PR.

Where does this hype come from? Mostly from people who sell links. I'm not saying that people who sell links are dishonest. NO! not at all. I am just saying that some people who sell links do this. They convince people, many times even themselves, that getting a link from a site (page) that has a high PR is worth more. They get more money for selling these links. They help boost the PR of a site just so they can charge more for a link from the site.

SEO consultants DO NOT EVEN KNOW the PR of their sites or of their client's sites. Why? Because it is a waste of time! Be an effect SEO consultant and don't worry about PR. And effectively SEO your own site by not worrying about PR.

~Chip

I disagree with others! I am a criminal lawyer and do SEO for myself. My first webpage took 1 month to be indexed. http://www.swayzelawoffice.com/compo...map/Itemid,58/

My second website got put in the index in less then a week.
http://www.lawyer-austin.net/compone...map/Itemid,58/

I am not sure why my website showed up on the index so quickly, but it did!
I created the website on Sunday. Today it shows up on google for the first time!

Originally Posted by caswayze

I disagree with others! I am a criminal lawyer and do SEO for myself. My first webpage took 1 month to be indexed. http://www.swayzelawoffice.com/compo...map/Itemid,58/

My second website got put in the index in less then a week.
http://www.lawyer-austin.net/compone...map/Itemid,58/

I am not sure why my website showed up on the index so quickly, but it did!
I created the website on Sunday. Today it shows up on google for the first time!

Most likely, you had great timing here. Googlebot must have spiddered a page with a link to your new site. It followed the link and there you go. Your site is on its way. If this isn't the case and it came from a site submission- one in a milion shot. Good for you caswayze.

Being in the index is different from getting listed in the serps. It is true that you can get listed for non-competitive search terms. As it goes, the more competitive the terms the more the sandbox will affect your site.

If you sell a new product called smilagajewminidisks and your site is one of three sites selling these things, most likely you will not find your site in the sandbox for this term.

If, however, you are using a term that renders over a million returns, you will most likely be sandboxed for that term.

Getting into the index was a Good Job. Getting a link from a site that gets spiddered on a fairly reqular basis helps a lot. Also, getting lucky and having googlebot visit a page that just put a link to your site on it is effective as well... Either one is effective. @;-)

~Chip

To come back to my topic..
My site is still not indexed.. I think it has to do with regards that my site has URLs not search engines friendly.. I'm working to try to fix this..

By the way.. The same day I launched my site http://multimontreal.com I created the following page nat-lot.net (The same day). nat-lot.net got indexed in 5 days and it has almost ZERO content.. As for multimontreal, it has over 1 175 Posts and getting lots of visitors from yahoo..

As I said earlier.. I think google doesn't like the formats of the URL on my site and that is why it is taking longer to get indexed...

ram

your home page is in the Google index! The link below is the link to Google's index of your page.

Home Page: Google Cache

Evidently, my guess would be that even though they are simple, Google is having trouble with your pages due to the fact that you are using one page.

Each of the main pages of the site are only using one variable, however, this variable is attached to the same page.

Examples:

• multimontreal.com/
• multimontreal.com/index.php?action=help
• multimontreal.com/index.php?action=links
• ultimontreal.com/index.php?action=register
• multimontreal.com/index.php?action=login
• multimontreal.com/index.php?topic=56.0#top

Most of the time Googlebot doesn't have a problem with pages like this. However, sometimes it does. Not to say that it's not going to index them but it may take more time.

One thing I noticed is in your first post you used the www. version of url for the link to your site. In this last post you used the non-www version. I also noticed that on the site you use non-www in your linking/navigation structure.

Did you realize that www.mysite.com and mysite.com are considered 2 seperate url's by Google? When you have both versions in googl's cache they each get devalued. (Each only holding a portion of the popularity it has recieved.)

Google's cache of the home page is the www. version. Therefore, you are correct in saying that the site has no pages in Google's cache. (This of course excluding www.multimontreal.com because it is in the cache.)

Usually things do not go arye until a site is a bit more established. Taking precautions so that it doesn't get out of hand need to be taken. When google starts showing double cache's of your pages (both the www and non-www versions) you need to fix it. You haven't gotten that far yet so it will be easier to fix.

It really doesn't matter which version you use just as long as they are uniform. you always use the same version. However, What I have determined is when people link to your site, they usually use the www version of the url. This of course will pass off this, Link Juice as we call it to the www version of the page and leaves the non-www version without receiving all opf the benefits that it should from the link. Debate has taken place about this, but IMO I always use the www version because of this reason.

I would say that these are contributin factors. What I would do would be to start to experiment with your url naming. For instance, you are using action as your main querry string variable. Google may be jumping ship when it sees this. I do know that "ID" is a variable that will many times cause googlebot to jump, but, I am not sure about action. I have seen act used successfully, but as I say, I am not sure how action affects googlebot.

Try experimenting by chaning this to something else.
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Most of your navigaion looks okay. I don't see it causing any problems. Have you added a lot of inbound links over a short period of time?
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You are going to have to create a checklist of things that normally cause problems and just start going down your list. It is going to be time consuming, but I don't know what else you could do. Something is causing it that is for sure. The site is old enough that google should be adding your pages to its index.

ALthough I do not know the reason, I am sure that ther is a REASON that googlebot isn't following your links.

(1) its just not follosing the links to go deeper into the site.
(2) it is finding the links but not folling them due to an infraction of the site. (i.e. too may added links in a short period of time, or something similar.)

(3) A link bomb from a competitor or something like that.


A lot of nothing I have written, but, I hope you can get some ideas. you are going to need to take action to get this resolved.

One other suggestion: I am a firm believer that sometimes it is easier to start fresh. Time is a wasting. Will a new domain render better results in less time that it will take to fix this? Only a question you can answer. You may love your domain name, but I loved my 67 mustang that was totalled. It ain't worth much anymore...(just an example. I really never owned a 67 mustang)

~Chip

I've had the same thing happen.
I have a newish site. Google indexed my 4 or so pages, but then I converted the site to a Wordpress blog.

It is www.squirrel-proof-bird-feeders.com.

I've done a post every day for 2 months, but all that shows up in Google are a few of my old pages and my home page; not any of the posts that are linked from my home page.

My sitemap account shows the last time my homepage was successfully crawled was Nov 16 even thought the Googlebots visit every day.

I have search engine friendly URLs and all my pages are html valid. I only have about 65 pages on my site, with one sitemap account.

2 months seems a long time for Google to spider, but not index.

Wish I could look into the mind of Google and see what the problem is...