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**Hoosier_Buddy** · 05:57 AM

I work for Appliance Parts Specialists, it is a family owned business. I am the website designer. I designed 3 websites for my company:

the main one:
4appliancerepairparts.com

the backup one (different host):
4appliancerepairparts.net

and the SEO one:
appliancezone.net

I'm trying to get ranked up in the search engines with appliancezone.net but I'm having trouble understanding how my competitor is beating everyone.
The competitor is repairclinic.com , their the largest out there, so far no one can even come close to beating them in sales. They've mastered the search engines when it comes to using the word appliance parts. It's not the
<meta tags> their not spamming there pages like crazy, I just don't get it.

The #2 competitor (in the search engines) is partselect.com and all they do is just spam the words appliance parts throughout their whole website.

But repairclinic.com still beats them. And that is where I get completely lost??????????? One thing I noticed was the keywords at the bottom of repairclinic.com home page are outside the <html> tags.

Is there something I'm missing? Or are they one of the very few that totally understands how the search engines work.

**sandbox** · 01-07-2007, 07:07 PM

I think I can tell you why...

repair clinic has in excess of 30,000 links to their website

partselect has in excess of 9,000

And your main site appliance repiar parts has 100 links to your site.

The big daddy also has several thousand more pages on their site than you have, so build a few thousand pages and get at least 30,000 other appliance type websites to link to yours and I think you'll give them a run for their money.

Sorry if this reply is depressing...and you just gave them two more links in your post (ooops)

**MattCoops** · 01-07-2007, 07:12 PM

backlinks.

they do have a link farm at bottom of site, that one day eventually will bite them in ranks

but they have a number of backlinks

and here's why they are outranking you in google right now: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.repairc linic.com

and here's you: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...liancezone.net

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 01-07-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattCoops

backlinks.

they do have a link farm at bottom of site, that one day eventually will bite them in ranks

but they have a number of backlinks

and here's why they are outranking you in google right now: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...pairclinic.com

and here's you: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...liancezone.net

ok maybe true, but you didn't try partselect, and therefore partselect should be above repairclinic. and appliance zone doesn't show up because i'm not even done with it yet.

appliance zone shows up 0 times

repair clinic shows up 78 times

partselect show up 1,290 times

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 01-07-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandbox

I think I can tell you why...

repair clinic has in excess of 30,000 links to their website

partselect has in excess of 9,000

And your main site appliance repiar parts has 100 links to your site.

The big daddy also has several thousand more pages on their site than you have, so build a few thousand pages and get at least 30,000 other appliance type websites to link to yours and I think you'll give them a run for their money.

Sorry if this reply is depressing...and you just gave them two more links in your post (ooops)

ok yes a little depressing, but one question. How do you know they have at least 30,000 pages?

**roy77** · 01-07-2007, 08:00 PM

Go, take 1000$ and buy a lot of links!!! quality ones too! and put your link in your sig, so everytime you post it counts towards you! you never know, maybe this page will get a PR one day

**MattCoops** · 01-07-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by roy77

Go, take 1000$ and buy a lot of links!!! quality ones too! and put your link in your sig, so everytime you post it counts towards you! you never know, maybe this page will get a PR one day

good one roy

I totally forgot about that

your missing out on a ton of links by not having your site in sig

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 01-07-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattCoops

good one roy

I totally forgot about that

your missing out on a ton of links by not having your site in sig

I feel a little stupid, but what is sig?

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 01-07-2007, 08:59 PM

Never mind I go it.

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 01-08-2007, 05:21 AM

Hey now anyone no why repairclinic put there bottom links outside there
<html tags> will the search engines pick it up first or what?????????????

**gringo** · 01-08-2007, 05:29 AM

Because they didn't want their pages to validate? Putting errors in your pages like this gives no benefit at all.

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 01-08-2007, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gringo

Because they didn't want their pages to validate? Putting errors in your pages like this gives no benefit at all.

so are they worthless?

**gringo** · 01-08-2007, 05:55 AM

They have no more value than normal links and they might have less, depending on how the search engines handle them. In Firefox, they don't behave like links but they do appear in the page's cache so who knows whether a search engine views them as links.

You shouldn't have anything after </html> so the question is redundant really.

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 05:59 AM

Oh I see....

**tinotriste** · 01-08-2007, 12:10 PM

It's all about the back links and not spamming keywords.

submit your site to directories.

**bzimage** · 01-08-2007, 05:54 PM

Back links, page content, relevancy... It is all a combined effort dude. What term is it that you want to rank well in? Maybe I can help you out more if I knew. Feel free to pm.

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 01-08-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinotriste

It's all about the back links and not spamming keywords.

submit your site to directories.

see thats where it gets tough, if backlinks are the way to go, I have a long way to go to catch up with them, they have 4 website designers, and I am on my own, so 4 on 1, :"Let The Backlinks Begin!"

**MattCoops** · 01-08-2007, 09:41 PM

hit up some directories
theres tons out their with free "submit site"

the higher the PR of the incoming link, the better

tis better to have an incoming link and you not reciprocate on your site

**Hoosier_Buddy** · 01-08-2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattCoops

hit up some directories
theres tons out their with free "submit site"

the higher the PR of the incoming link, the better

tis better to have an incoming link and you not reciprocate on your site

I didn't think about that, what type of sites would I go to, where I would submit my site for free???

**jenyfari** · 01-09-2007, 02:24 AM

Here is a good list of directories:

http://www.seocompany.ca/directory/web-directories.html