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**ibbo** · 02-09-2007, 05:54 AM

I llink only with related sites but I am curious to the benefits of me doing so if they have a lower PR than my site.

So does linking with sites who have a lower PR than you have any effect on your PR overall?

Cheers Ibbo

**Numbah1** · 02-09-2007, 06:41 AM

Yeah it's called a PR leak. But don't worry if it's relevant enough Google will cancel it out with the increase you get for having a relevant link, making you come ahead.

Thank you

**stOx** · 02-09-2007, 10:03 AM

No decisions should ever be made based on PR.
Related sites are often no better than any other site, Google looks more at the authority of the site than how related it is.

If you have a site that sells dog leads it would be better to have a homepage link from slashdot or the BBC (sites which have nothing to do with dog leads) than a link from another site that sells dog leads.

Secondly, After the authority of the site, You should look at whether this site is going to send you traffic. If a site has no pr and no authority, but will send you 100 visitors a day, It's worth having.

**chrishirst** · 02-09-2007, 08:28 PM

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Yeah it's called a PR leak.

No such thing as a PR "leak"

**yasha78** · 02-10-2007, 09:54 PM

As far as I know, your PR isn't compromised by linking to site(s) that have a lower PR than yours.

**hiredesigner** · 02-12-2007, 12:24 AM

I dont think so that linking with low pr site will lower your site's pr.I want to know what exactly is the pr leak.

**chrishirst** · 02-12-2007, 03:37 PM

try reading post #4

**doogers** · 02-12-2007, 05:47 PM

How often does google update PR's?

**chrishirst** · 02-12-2007, 05:55 PM

when they feel like it

**trichnosis** · 02-12-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by doogers

How often does google update PR's?

google usually updates toolbar pr 4 times in a year

**parusa619** · 02-13-2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibbo

I llink only with related sites but I am curious to the benefits of me doing so if they have a lower PR than my site.

So does linking with sites who have a lower PR than you have any effect on your PR overall?

Cheers Ibbo

If the site has lower PR, yes but it would not decrease your PR, because they can serve as an additional backlink to your site.

**mastermemei** · 02-14-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by doogers

How often does google update PR's?

http://www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/pa...date-list.html

**Adam Fletcher** · 02-14-2007, 09:10 AM

I belive that Link exchanges are no longer an effective way of builing links. Google penalise websites for doing a large amount of link exchanges.

Builing link bait and getting natural links is the way to go

**princess06** · 02-14-2007, 11:40 AM

IMO, as long as it is relevant to your site then no problem with that

**chrishirst** · 02-14-2007, 06:47 PM

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Google penalise websites for doing a large amount of link exchanges.

NOT EVEN CLOSE

you get penalised for DELIBERATELY trying to subvert the ranking algos.
All that is likely to happen is the link exchange links may get devalued. This is NOT the same as a penalty.

**Adam Fletcher** · 02-14-2007, 06:53 PM

Sites can penalise sites for link exchanges and sites can loose rankings or be totally dropped from the search engines.

Links can be built easier anyway

**chrishirst** · 02-14-2007, 09:11 PM

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Sites can penalise sites for link exchanges and sites can loose rankings or be totally dropped from the search engines.

Links can be built easier anyway

Ermmm right?
You wouldn't care to explain that would you, 'cos it makes no sense at all

**Adam Fletcher** · 02-15-2007, 07:27 AM

Hello

Sorry you know what it is like when your typing at night just before you go to bed

Google will penalise websites for doing high amounts of link exchanges and their is a massive chance of getting penalised if you use a link exchange programme. Remember Google says

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Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.

If your site is rather new - your link exchanges will work for a while because google doesn't consider you to be important enough to affect the search results. But 2 years down the line with thousands of link exchanges then google may well decide enough is enough and simply remove your from the index.

They penalise sites for link exchanges

**auroinfo** · 02-15-2007, 11:45 AM

Give links from content based page and always give relevant link outs.

This would do good

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibbo

I llink only with related sites but I am curious to the benefits of me doing so if they have a lower PR than my site.

So does linking with sites who have a lower PR than you have any effect on your PR overall?

Cheers Ibbo

**chrishirst** · 02-15-2007, 12:14 PM

The quote from the google guidelines does NOT mention a penalty, it says "adversely affected"
And that is exactly what happens, rankings drop off the chart BUT the site pages remain in the index. Some may go supplemental others will still appears for low competition terms. This is NOT a penalty, it may seem like one, but after some tidying and improving the quality and workmanship of the overall optimisation, the pages will recover.
It is simply the net result of relying on crap advice and/or using techniques bandied about by the very many self styled "experts" and proponents of the algo chasing "methods" of "optimising"

The answers are very simple;
Build pages for users not search engines.
Get links from sites/pages you see as useful and link out using the same criteria.

and just remember; If a link is easy to get, it ain't worth having.