Hi;

think that scenario ;

* you have blog
* you are updating this blog daily
* you did not make any sharp changes on your site
* your site has predicted pr 5 , over 2k indexed pages by google
* you are not making any illegal think ( like spam etc)

And suddenly your site has been banned from google .

* your predicted page rank has become zero
* all of your indexed page has been deleted from google index

How do you decide the google ban reason ?

is there google tool that shows the ban reason ?

Thanks

How do you decide the google ban reason ?

Hard to say. Maybe hidden text or overoptimizing?

is there google tool that shows the ban reason ?

No, unfortunately there is no such tool

Probably all the link exchanges and cheating StumbleUpon.

That might just do it.

Other possibilities:

<li><a href="http://www.englishinformation.net/category/business/" title="Main Business category . Subcategories of this category are Branding ,Business ,Careers Employment ,Change Management ,Customer Service ,Entrepreneurialism ,Ethics ,Franchising ,Fundraising ,Industrial Mechanical ,Management ,Marketing ,Marketing Direct ,Negotiation ,Networking ,Outsourcing ,Presentation ,Resumes Cover Letters ,Sales ,Sales Management ,Sales Teleselling ,Sales Training ,Small Business ,Solo Professionals ,Strategic Planning ,Team Building ,Top7 or 10 Tips ,Venture Capital ,Workplace Communication ,Advertising">Business</a>
</li>

Love that title attribute.

ancient scourge centers for disease control and prevention complacent conference on retroviruses fatality rate freire global alliance Health hiv patients line drugs mdr tb province of south africa resistant tb tb cases tb drug development tb drugs toxic alternatives tuberculosis urgent search world health organization xdr

How many "tags" do you NEED? That's spamtastic in and of itself.

But then again, you've got over 2000 pages of so-called useful and original content, right?

http://www.englishinformation.net/20...x-differences/

Interesting what we find when we do a Google search for the first phrase:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLF,GGLF:2006-19,GGLF:en&q=To+thoroughly+investigate+sex+differe nces+in+Rheumatoid+arthritis%2c

Not spamming, eh?

Not-So-Newbie may be losing respect for you. Consider yourself lucky. He should have lost all respect for you, as I have.

You want a reason you're banned? You've now got at least four possibilities. Now stop complaining because you got caught being lazy and spammy and either build some sites of use to people or take your ball and go home.

Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

... all the link exchanges ...

i did not make link exchange for this web site .

Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

... and cheating StumbleUpon.

i will not make comment for this . aprove it or not but i dont agree with you.

Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

That might just do it.

Other possibilities:

<li><a href="http://www.englishinformation.net/category/business/" title="Main Business category . Subcategories of this category are Branding ,Business ,Careers Employment ,Change Management ,Customer Service ,Entrepreneurialism ,Ethics ,Franchising ,Fundraising ,Industrial Mechanical ,Management ,Marketing ,Marketing Direct ,Negotiation ,Networking ,Outsourcing ,Presentation ,Resumes Cover Letters ,Sales ,Sales Management ,Sales Teleselling ,Sales Training ,Small Business ,Solo Professionals ,Strategic Planning ,Team Building ,Top7 or 10 Tips ,Venture Capital ,Workplace Communication ,Advertising">Business</a>
</li>

Love that title attribute.

ancient scourge centers for disease control and prevention complacent conference on retroviruses fatality rate freire global alliance Health hiv patients line drugs mdr tb province of south africa resistant tb tb cases tb drug development tb drugs toxic alternatives tuberculosis urgent search world health organization xdr

How many "tags" do you NEED? That's spamtastic in and of itself.

But then again, you've got over 2000 pages of so-called useful and original content, right?

http://www.englishinformation.net/20...x-differences/

Interesting what we find when we do a Google search for the first phrase:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLF,GGLF:2006-19,GGLF:en&q=To+thoroughly+investigate+sex+differe nces+in+Rheumatoid+arthritis%2c

Not spamming, eh?

Not-So-Newbie may be losing respect for you. Consider yourself lucky. He should have lost all respect for you, as I have.

You want a reason you're banned? You've now got at least four possibilities. Now stop complaining because you got caught being lazy and spammy and either build some sites of use to people or take your ball and go home.

Mr. Polemic continues to talk ;

Please stop making personal attack to me.

The web site that i mention is not that . you are searching reasons to attack me and your are trying to create another polemic but i dont want your ideas mr. polemic

note 1 : i have checked your your replies . as i see you are attacking everybody.
note 2 : that web site is only experimental . it was joomla nearly 1 month ago . it's a blog now and it will be directory in one or two weeks this will be the final for that web site. i buy a dump database from ebay for the blog and the article is a part of that database. and the final final version will not contain that article and tags

You don't want my ideas? Then don't post here. It's that simple.

The reason I posted had nothing to do with you. There are other people who read this board and may be wondering the same thing, see your site, and be confused. You spam, you run the risk of getting banned. And you spammed. Whether or not you're trichnosis or Bob or Ted or Sally makes no difference in this regard, and it has nothing to do with a personal attack.

So what if you're going to change it to a directory? You want to know why the site's banned right now. What you're doing in the future will have no effect on what the search engines see in the present. How are they going to know that?

You seem to think I have some sort of hidden agenda against you or something, when I really don't. Everyone who runs into your ideas lately disagrees with you. Are they all attacking you? No. And I'm not either.

The fact is you spam, you endorse spammy tactics, and this time you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar. You can hate me all you want for pointing that out, but it is what it is.

Originally Posted by trichnosis

i will not make comment for this . aprove it or not but i dont agree with you.

You don't have to agree with me. Google agrees, and that's why you're asking this question.

Also, you don't have to convince me this isn't spam. You have to convince Google. They're the ones that de-indexed you, so obviously they believe this is spam, and refuse to show it to their users.

This proves what I told you a few times already: it's in your own best interest to behave morally.

It doesn't makes sense to ask people why your site was removed from google and then suggest that anyone who posts possible reasons is "making personal attacks".

Were you expecting people to say "your site was removed from google because it was awesome and not at all spammy"?

Another possibility -- constant whining and picking arguments on Forums could've pissed a few people off, who looked at your site and reported it to Google ... tread lightly; for you may not know who you're dealing with.

Originally Posted by trichnosis

How do you decide the google ban reason ?

Really only a handful of people inside Google know the specific reason any web site was banned. That doesn't really matter; Google doesn't really like for people to make decisions like that, all that's important is their database knows not to include you in the search results. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to change the database's mind.

You would do that in the Google Webmaster Tools admin area. But first read what Google has to say:


Quality guidelines - basic principles

• Make pages for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your users or present different content to search engines than you display to users, which is commonly referred to as "cloaking."
• Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"
• Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.
• Don't use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our Terms of Service. Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold™ that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google.

Quality guidelines - specific guidelines

• Avoid hidden text or hidden links.
• Don't employ cloaking or sneaky redirects.
• Don't send automated queries to Google.
• Don't load pages with irrelevant words.
• Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
• Don't create pages that install viruses, trojans, or other badware.
• Avoid "doorway" pages created just for search engines, or other "cookie cutter" approaches such as affiliate programs with little or no original content.
• If your site participates in an affiliate program, make sure that your site adds value. Provide unique and relevant content that gives users a reason to visit your site first.

If a site doesn't meet our quality guidelines, it may be blocked from the index. If you determine that your site doesn't meet these guidelines, you can modify your site so that it does and request reinclusion.

It really doesn't matter which site we pick from your signature

take this page for instance
http://www.downloadfull.net/2007/01/...arth/#more-570
What do we get from google
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...f+the+Earth%22

Same here all duplicated content, over stuffed titles, overdone "tags" etc etc

Take your turkish blog, again overstuffed title attributes, totally useless for SEs of course but it certainly waves a very large red flag to SEs. Almost hidden text at the bottom of pages.


No disguising the intent behind those items spread across your pages is there really.

It may of course be just a glitch and everything will return in a few days/weeks but either way the next move is yours.


BTW "predicted" pagerank means even less than the pointless display in the toolbar.

Originally Posted by travelagent

Another possibility -- constant whining and picking arguments on Forums could've pissed a few people off, who looked at your site and reported it to Google ... tread lightly; for you may not know who you're dealing with.

That sounds like an interesting hint. Do you know something we don't know?

Having read a little closer, ForrestCroce has a bit of a point. You really should be asking people inside of big G what they think.

Here's one of them: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog

Or, you could try the Google public support group: http://groups.google.com/group/googl.../topics?lnk=sg

Mind you, if you really want good SEO advice, you should check out http://www.ihelpyou.com/forums . The owner of that site (Doug Heil) has done SEO for Sony, among others. He don't screw around. You want an answer, he'll tell you, and you'd get about as accurate an answer as you're going to get from someone who doesn't actually work at an engine.

I'd definitely go the third route, then the first or second if I got stuck. I'm sure you'll find a lot more success there. The SEO-types or those with mad SEO knowledge will surely agree with me.

Originally Posted by ADAM Web Design

That sounds like an interesting hint. Do you know something we don't know?

...*smile*... dontcha just love small hints?

Yep -- Doug Heil has been around for quite some time, and pulls no punches!

Did we answer your question satisfactorily?

Notice that it was Adam who provided the most useful advice and collection of links here. I don't think he has any personal malice against you, in fact from this thread it really looks like he went out of his way to help you figure out what the problem is and how to go about solving it.

Its not like everything is lost, you still have Adbrite which is a decent alternative...

Originally Posted by Junije

Its not like everything is lost, you still have Adbrite which is a decent alternative...

Huh ?????????

It's from the search results NOT adsense

Learning Newbie ;

I dont agree with "cheating StumbleUpon" section . i'm making StumbleUpon exchange . most of the webmasters are doing StumbleUpon exchange . google does not care the StumbleUpon exchange . your reply is a bit strange

stOx ;

i have write for only adam web design . after stumbleupon thread that guy has started to make personal attack to me .

chris ;

thanks for the comment . first of all , the web site that i mention is not in my signature .
* i have removed that blog post that you mention on downloadfull.net . i have hired some paid blog writer while i was starting to downloadfull.net . it's a result of this . as i understand i must the other blog posts
* you mention about my turkish site . there is no hidden text on that site . the text that you mention is "if you want to contact us . pls click here" . i think this is not hidden text

and you mention titles . it's a precaution for preventing the suplemental listing which is mentioned on http://www.seo4fun.com/notes/supplementals.html . what do you think about this tips ?

mr. polemic ;
i will not write anythink about your personel attack . i have asked a general question but you have started to make personal attacks. this shows your education . i hate inconsiderate people .

Thanks

Its not certain if google can ban certain IP is it? They can track you and ban you from services, but they can only block out IP chunks. Is this correct?