Hi everyone! As they say "long time reader, first time poster." My question is, how can I determine the specific position of my page within a google search? For example, if I do a search for "commercial real estate" it returns 6,220,000 results. Is there a way to learn what position within those results my site falls (i.e. 1,256,345)?? I'm sure this has to be doable, but I can't seem to find a way, or a source.

Please help!!

I only check the Top 30 of the results. If it ain't in there, then one needs to work on improving that because nobody looks much past that many results anyway.

One thing you can do to quickly check to see if you are in the Top 100 at either Yahoo or Google is to set your Preferences to display 100 results per page. Then do a search on your domain name with the Find on this Page (Ctrl-F) menu option in your browser.

Thanks for that reply. I too can check in top 30/100 using google prefs and ctrl/cmd+F.

However, if trying to demonstrate to a client that his site has been moving UP in the listings based on SEO work being done, it would be beneficial to be able to say,

"Look, Mr. Client. On X date your site (for this search term) place at 1,234 position out of 10,556 listings. Then, 4 weeks later, your site now places at 258 position, out of 11,123 listings for the same search term."

I am SURE there has to be a tool to do that. I tried googling for such a tool, but haven't found the correct term(s) to locate it.

Anybody feel like a challenge? If it can be found - or if anyone is aware of it already - it would be a benefit to us all!

Thanks!

There is probably one out there, but it may require a Google API License to run. If you have any experience in programming with SOAP and another form of scripting language (php, asp, etc.) you could probably work up an application to do that for you.

Perhaps you were just looking in the wrong area? Try the Google API discussion forums and do a search there or ask some questions about it. The coding is not all that hard to do ... and I would imagine with some of the people in those forums that they could layout an easy enough script for you to use.

hi guys,

i found this tool ages ago that lets you search for your site by using upto ten different "searches"
It checks the first 1000 sites

http://www.googlerankings.com hope it helps

Kewl tool. That is exactly what newmedia03 was looking for. Nice find.

Good call on that site! It's a shame it only does up to 1000 though. I may get it modified by my developer to show more results. I'd like up to 1M, ideally.

Either way, THANKS! I appreciate the help.

You cannot go past 1000 results at Google no matter what you do. Scraping or using the API, Google does not return more than 1000 results either way.

Originally Posted by newmedia03

Hi everyone! As they say "long time reader, first time poster." My question is, how can I determine the specific position of my page within a google search? For example, if I do a search for "commercial real estate" it returns 6,220,000 results. Is there a way to learn what position within those results my site falls (i.e. 1,256,345)?? I'm sure this has to be doable, but I can't seem to find a way, or a source.

Please help!!

Check out the free tools at www.digitalpoint.com

The keyword tracker allows you to store a list of keywords and domains and check all of their ranks with a single click. Lots of other features too, but I'll let you see for yourself.

ps - tools at digitalpoint are all free.

Originally Posted by RonnieTheDodger

You cannot go past 1000 results at Google no matter what you do. Scraping or using the API, Google does not return more than 1000 results either way.

Ooops. Correction on this statement. I meant to say the top 1000 pages at 10 results per page. My bad.

Originally Posted by GuyFromChicago

Check out the free tools at www.digitalpoint.com

The keyword tracker allows you to store a list of keywords and domains and check all of their ranks with a single click. Lots of other features too, but I'll let you see for yourself.

That is a pretty cool tool, but one caveat to it. It requires that you acquire an API Key from Google to use it, and you have to disclose that Key to DigitalPoint to make the tool work. If you feel comfortable with that ... then go for it. They are a good company and I do not doubt their sincerety when they say they are not mining for API keys.

As an alternative, you can use MarketLeaps keyword tracking tool too. It does the same thing, but only digs down into the first three pages of results (the top 30). The reason being is if you ain't in the top 30, then chances are you will not be found during normal search patterns anyway.

This tool is free also, tracks over time just like DigitalPoints, you can enter in multiple websites also, and multiple keyword searches. It does not require an API Key either.

http://www.marketleap.com/verify/default.htm

Another tool that allows you to check your postion on a number of different search engines is "THE SERPS TOOL" at the SEO GUY site.
http://www.seo-guy.com/seo-tools/se-pos.php
it takes a few tries, to get the hang of it.. but it gives a rough guideline... plus you can vary the page depth to allow for 'deeper' page results to be returned.

Originally Posted by RonnieTheDodger

It does not require an API Key either.
http://www.marketleap.com/verify/default.htm

Wouldn't that violate Google's TOS then? I know at DP they allow you to sign up fpr the key so you're operating within the guidlines set forth by Google for querying their index.

As for DP and it's owners - all seem like straight up people to me. The owner (Shawn) is in the forums at DP a lot and seems to be legit guy. Never had any problems with his company or his tools. If you had any questions I would encourage anyone to swing by his forum and ask away. I've never seen a question or concern go unanswered.

http://www.googlerankings.com seems like a cool tool, but it's not exactly acurate, when using the tool for one of my sites with specific keywords it said that my site was ranked 6th, but when doing the same search actually using google, the site was ranked 3rd.

But it's still not a bad place to start I guess.

Originally Posted by GuyFromChicago

Wouldn't that violate Google's TOS then? I know at DP they allow you to sign up fpr the key so you're operating within the guidlines set forth by Google for querying their index.

Okay ... maybe a little clarification. The Digital Point tool uses quite a few queries to produce it's results with. Shawn is not going to give up his daily quota for it and I don't blame him. ;0)

Anybody can apply for a Google API key however and then in turn use their own key to use Shawn's tool.

For the most part, a lot of Shawn's tools come out of his own daily quota and is no problem. He is probably smart enough to cache daily results and reuse them in case somebody uses the tool to incessantly check the same terms over and over again.

The MarketyLeap Tool is one that only goes 3 pages deep. The reason being is that even if people go thru 2 pages of results, not too many will go past 3. No need to check those results ... because if you are not there, then you ain't in the groove.

MarketLeap only has the three basic tools keyword ranking, link popularity, and search engine saturation. All of them are on one page (via a tabbed screen) and provide for trend analysis as well. Basicly put, it is an all-in-one tool of all the things that you really need to be concerned with. They also go beyond just Google. It includes MSN, AllTheWeb, AltaVista, etc.

http://www.googlerankings.com seems like a cool tool, but it's not exactly acurate, when using the tool for one of my sites with specific keywords it said that my site was ranked 6th, but when doing the same search actually using google, the site was ranked 3rd. ""

It might depend on which datacenter you're searching on.... may be #3 in one and #6 in another...

When you used the tool and noticed the differences, was it recently or in the past?

If there are differences in the datacenters, then there may have been an update going on at the time. I am not sure where this site is pulling it's data from ... but the IP address for it is located in Colorado.

Originally Posted by lufc

hi guys,

i found this tool ages ago that lets you search for your site by using upto ten different "searches"
It checks the first 1000 sites

http://www.googlerankings.com hope it helps

good find, thanks for the link!

hi guys,

I found this site that lets you find position of your site in Google as well as Google AdWords by using different search term
It checks the first 100 sites

http://www.beGoogle.com

Hope it will help you


csearch
CorrectSearch.com

What you might want to think about is getting a stats program that can track what search engine a vistor came from AND what keyword they used.

On the sites that I maintain, we get a lot of random search enigne traffic- that is traffic searching for keywords that we didnt target... which is a good thing.

The software tells me who is actually clicking the links and getting to my page and how they got there.

Being #1 on google is worthless if its for a term that people dont search.

Ronnie said: "Ooops. Correction on this statement. I meant to say the top 1000 pages at 10 results per page. My bad."

So you mean I can't search the top 10,000 results? As opposed to the top 1000? If that's actually true, how?? That would be a real benefit to me if it can be done somehow.

Also, (btw THANKS for all the good posts everyone!) is there a similar tool for checking the Overture-served results? I'd be really interested in that too!

Thanks for all the help!

Steve