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Old 07-16-2007, 09:34 AM Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Hello Members,

I am a newbie here, infact i have participated in other forums earlier. But i dint get any proper reponse from them.Not satisfied ... I hope i will be getting good responses from you people here.

I have made a website 11 months back, till now google doesnt indexed my website. My website having 800 back links in yahoo. I have checked the robots.txt file also its fine .Could you please tell me the reasons how to get indexed in google.

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Old 07-16-2007, 09:51 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Hi Chris789,

are you sure it's not indexed? Or is it indexed and simply not ranking when you search for it?

What's the URL?
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:07 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Submit your site once again to Google with modified content on your website. I think this will help you
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:28 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Submitting a site to Google is a complete waste of time, and no one in their right mind would recommend them.

Chris, it's impossible to tell anything without seeing your site. It could be banned, it could be indexed and not ranked, it could be not indexed at all (although if Yahoo! shows 800 inbound links, I'm inclined to doubt it)...so what's your site?
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:59 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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How do you know it is not indexed yet....
Maybe it has been banned due to some reason
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:39 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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That's impossible.Try to post your URL here so we can assess your website.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:05 PM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Submitting a site to Google is a complete waste of time, and no one in their right mind would recommend them.
I have to say, I really do agree with this...

In my experience, you get far better results by leaving a trail and letting Google come to you. The key is to diversify, (i.e. leave a wide variety of footprints), so that the bots just can't help but roll in.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:23 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Submitting a site to Google is a complete waste of time, and no one in their right mind would recommend them.
It just takes 30 secs and its worth wasting for the benefit you get from google.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:34 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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What benefit do you get from Google though? Submitting a site won't get you indexed any faster. A link in your forum signature here will get search engines to visit your site sooner than submitting. I don't think submitting your site will hurt, but it really won't help either.

Chris, we're going to need to see a link to your site in order to be able to help more. Because you mentioned links at Yahoo I'm wondering if the problem is you're not seeing Google listing any backlinks for your site. If that's the case there's nothing to worry about since Google never lists all the links it knows about.

If it really is an indexing problem then please post a link or let us know the domain and we'll be happy to take a look and see if we can help more.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:00 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Its just that you are not leaving upto external factors to decide and get indexed thats it. You just don't need to be submitting them regularly but once and thats it. I understand that its not necessary but for new sites its good to be doing so.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:01 PM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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It just takes 30 secs and its worth wasting for the benefit you get from google.
If there was any benefit whatsoever - and there isn't - then 30 seconds of sitting down and moving your hands would be worth it. But it does nothing for you. Even if it's only 30 seconds you waste, it's still wasted time and effort, with zero return on your (small) investment.

For me the problem isn't the 30 seconds, and it's not even rumors that submitting your site to Google will hurt you. It's that if you're going to waste 30 seconds for no reason on this question, there are thousands of other questions about running a web site.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:13 PM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Its just that you are not leaving upto external factors to decide and get indexed thats it. You just don't need to be submitting them regularly but once and thats it. I understand that its not necessary but for new sites its good to be doing so.
Did you get that from Bob Mutch? Ten to one says that if he ever finds this thread, you'll find yourself looking for another "SEO Company Optimization" to represent.

Submitting accomplishes nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Zero. Squat. Bupkes.

chris789, if you ever return to this thread (and I suspect you probably won't since you haven't gotten the generic all-purpose non-existent answer you appear to be seeking), please tell us what your site is again so those such as vangogh and the Newbie, who actually know their *** from a hole in the ground, can give you proper advice.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:02 PM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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And on that note, it also only takes about 30 seconds to submit to aboutus, which gets you a link instantly. It's not a link Google gives any weight at all to, but it's one they'll discover. I even got a positive review on mine, which means at least one visitor actually clicked the link. But if that doesn't happen, it'll get you crawled within half a week, as opposed to maybe six months, maybe three years if you submit directly to the engine.

Have you ever asked a sales person an important question about something you were thinking about buying, and they had no idea what you were talking about? Chances are you went and bought it somewhere else, and haven't been back to that store since. Happens every day with cameras at Best Buy. Replace the sales person with a search engine, and it doesn't take much imagination to see why putting a URL in a form doesn't do anything for you.

You're telling them your site exists, but you have a vested interest in saying it's good. So they don't take your word on that. You need links from other sites to vouch for you. It doesn't exactly make sense that you can get a link as easily from a web directory as you can fill in Google's form, but they assume some third party actually looked at your site and approved it.

Search engines go out and crawl the web looking for data, or content, that their users might be interested in. Using their form doesn't make it any easier on them, they'd be crawling the web even if everybody submitted their sites directly to the search engines. You'll find the same one will even come back several times to see if your site has changed. That's all automatic; nobody outside Google really knows what happens when you put your site in the queue.

I've got two sites, personal and advertising, haven't submitted either to any search engine, and they both come up in all of them. The first does pretty well.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:55 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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shabbirbhimani I don't think submitting gets Google or any other search engine to crawl your site. I think it may have at one time, but I think too many people submitted to many URLs too many times that those submissions are essentially ignored.

But assuming that sites submitted are eventually crawled it still makes more sense to do something else. There's only so much time in a day so why not try to accomplish two things at once. If you get a link on a site that gets crawled frequently the search engines will find your site and you also get a link.

A link in a forum signature will get your site crawled and it creates another avenue into your site. Why spend the time submitting when you could get crawled in a way that has other benefits.

I'm not saying you can't submit to a search engine. I just think your time is spent more effectively doing other things. I haven't submitted a site since the first one I built and it's never taken more than a few days to get the spiders to visit.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:04 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:07 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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Michael that's what most of us have been saying is kind of pointless. Most of us don't believe submitting your URL there gets you indexed. We think the time is better spend getting other sites to link to you since it's more likely to get your site crawled.

Again nothing wrong with submitting your site, but there are better things you could be doing.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:28 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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shabbirbhimani I don't think submitting gets Google or any other search engine to crawl your site.
It does. It was tested in some thread at sitepoint quite some time back with an orphan page by someone (I am not sure about the user) and it only submitted that page and did not had any backlinks / adsense ...
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:53 AM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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So because some random stranger made a claim that may or may not be verifiable, you're parroting the information to us.

Good thinking.
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:37 PM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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It does. It was tested in some thread at sitepoint quite some time back with an orphan page by someone (I am not sure about the user) and it only submitted that page and did not had any backlinks / adsense ...
How long ago was "some time back?" Ten years ago you could go to the top of AllTheWeb or Excite by using the same word a lot on a page. Five years ago, the web was small enough that the submit a URL queue for a major search engine was manageable. Heck, a while ago people thought the idea of indoor lighting was crazy. As fas as internet and search technology changes, "quite some time back" is meaningless.

An orphan page sounds like your friend submitted a page on a site the engines already knew about. They may have found a link to a directory listing. The engine may have crawled their submission. It's impossible to say.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:41 PM Re: Why Not Indexed By Google?
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shabbirbhimani I don't think submitting gets Google or any other search engine to crawl your site.
It's not inconceivable that the submit page does what it purports to do.

It's a bit irrelevant whether you can get your site in a search engine's index by merely submitting it, though, as you will probably need some "quality backlinks" to rank for any search terms. If you're getting links to rank, you may as well omit the submission step as the links will get you crawled.

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