The Other Search Engines

**willcode4beer** · 07-28-2008, 01:17 PM

Thought you guys would be interested in this:
http://www.hurricanesoftwares.com/20...search-engine/

They claim their search is better and index 120 billion pages.

**vangogh** · 07-28-2008, 08:04 PM

I tried it this morning, but wasn't impressed. It couldn't find some things I thought would be easy finds, especially if they're claiming to have indexed more pages than Google.

I'll certainly keep checking on cuil, but today it wasn't giving me good results.

**2fk** · 07-29-2008, 10:06 AM

I think they have the potential as the inventor Anna Patterson's once the big G bought her technology..in upgrading their system..though it will be a big challenge for them as compared to others that challenges Google...they probably have the edge to the challenge..let's see in coming days if what will be the features of the SE:"CUIL"...

will it out shine Google ? big question..

**usearchme** · 07-29-2008, 11:13 AM

I had a look defo needs some work, as the pic at the side of my websites had no relevance to the site what so ever lol !

Who knows we all gotta start somewhere !

Woc

**juliensimon** · 02:54 PM

I am impressed with Cuil at all so far. Maybe because my company don't rank as high as in Google

But seriously, it might just take time to get use to it. The black is definitely a very good idea in order to save energy! (think green - make your page black. blackle started it)

Anyway, all search engines started somewhere...we'll have to see where this one goes. There is definitely potential with the casting.

P.S: same thing as usearchme. The pic they put with my company doesn't have anything to do with it.

**yourmediaking** · 07-29-2008, 03:56 PM

I have to say, it looks amazing. It is very well designed, better than google. The black works well.

But the actual search aspect of it was a little disappointing. I couldn't find some popular websites and the search results layout was weird. I think I'm too used to google's simple search results in a linear layout whereas cuil is a grid layout.

Nevertheless, it's a good effort but again "cuil" just won't catch on like google did. "Google" is now a brand so I don't think cuil will amaze everyone too soon.

**kline11** · 07-29-2008, 04:11 PM

I don't care for Cuil at all. The 3 rows of results with unrelated images, etc., I find very cluttered and confusing. I am used to the top to bottom search results, not left to right (like the rest of the world). I also find the results not too much different than Google's and their are many searches that have 0 results. Also, If I search for my domain SearchBliss without the .com, I get 0 results, but searchbliss.com does. To sum up, they have a lot of work to do to compete with G. and, Anna Patterson (creator) only worked for Google for 2 years.

**juliensimon** · 07-29-2008, 04:45 PM

they are fixing things quickly
For example, I was searching my company Virtually Canadian...no results. With a small C: Virtually canadian, we show up everywhere on the page...
but then I tried again a couple of hours later and it worked.

Sure enough: I just tried SearchBliss, your company showed up first result. Give them time, Google didn't grow up in one day.

**2fk** · 07-30-2008, 09:52 AM

so far Cuil already indexed 120 billion pages..."Twiceler" is the name of their robot web crawler...they may take time but has the big potential...

CUil edge over google:?

-Cuil claims to have the biggest index
-Popularity is not as important as Google says
-Cuil uses a new results page format
-Cuil does not collect user data

THe CUIL TEAM:

Anna Patterson: worked on Google’s search index
Russell Power: worked on Google’s search index
Louis Monier: founder of the AltaVista search engine
Tom Costello: worked on IBM’s WebFountain project.

**VirtuosiMedia** · 02:15 PM

I tried it out as well. Somehow I missed all the hype building up to it, but it seems to me that they launched a bit too early.

Pros

I like aspects of the UI. The pagination is clean. I like the colors. Having an image display next to most of the results is nice.
I like the Ajax search bar.
The category widget and the category suggestions at the top of each page are nice touches.
Some of the related categories turn up suggestions that are related but don't contain any of the search terms. (However, some of them are also completely off the mark.)

Cons

The two and three column layout isn't going to work. You can't quickly scan text that way, the eye has to move too far over the page. If they're going to have two and three columns, they at least need to have the option to have single column results.
I don't like the framed results the way they are right now. If you're going to have fixed portions of the page, I'd move the pagination to the top.
The search results aren't very relevant. I couldn't find my web page when I searched for 'Virtuosi Media'. When I searched for 'virtuosimedia.com', it displayed six results: my home page, a dzone page linking to an article of mine, a former website of mine that hasn't been on the web for a year, and three results that didn't even contain the text 'virtuosimedia.com' or anything close.
The images aren't even close to being accurate. The image associated with my site isn't on the site and I've never seen it before. A search for 'Minnesota Vikings' has vikings.com with a picture of a Green Bay Packers helmet next to it.
There is no image or video search.

Undecided

Yesterday, when I tried some basic searches, no results turned up. I tried 'Tom Brady', the color 'red', and a few others. Today, those searches return results. I'm not really quite sure what to make of that, especially if Cuil has as many pages indexed as it claims to. It's almost as if they are only displaying cached results rather than actually doing a search on their index when someone requests a search. So if you're the first one to do a search, nothing will turn up, but your search gets added to a queue, which is searched later and the results are added to the cache for the next person that searches for that term. If that's the case, Cuil is going to have a hard time staying relevant. A search for 'LA earthquake' turned up nothing about yesterday's earthquake on Cuil, but Google had news results.

Conclusion

I don't think Google has anything to worry about anytime soon. I also wouldn't bother trying to do any SEO for Cuil...it's not going to be worth your time at this point. I think some of the things that Google and Yahoo are experimenting with, in addition to some of the semantic technologies are going to provide a far better results than Cuil will be able to deliver. All that said, Cuil has been out of beta for a day, so it may improve a lot as they get more data.

**juliensimon** · 07-30-2008, 05:28 PM

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/comparing...yahoo-live-ask

this article compare cuil with other SEs with very specific scores / features

It's not as long as it seems...there are just a lot of comments

Compare
http://www.cuil.com/search?q=cuil
to
http://www.google.com/search?q=cuil

**VirtuosiMedia** · 07-30-2008, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliensimon

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/comparing...yahoo-live-ask

this article compare cuil with other SEs with very specific scores / features

It's not as long as it seems...there are just a lot of comments

Compare
http://www.cuil.com/search?q=cuil
to
http://www.google.com/search?q=cuil

Interesting article, but his study was pretty subjective.

**francis84** · 07-31-2008, 12:22 AM

I try to search on his NEW SEARCH ENGINE (www.cuil.com) and i find it not so comfortable. The search result was not layout properly (i wonder how it should read: sideward or top to bottom?)

**Gage33** · 07-31-2008, 08:55 PM

Has anyone found out how to get cuil to crawl your web page?

**juliensimon** · 08-01-2008, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gage33

Has anyone found out how to get cuil to crawl your web page?

you have to email them your url. Look on their site, the information is there

**eautocad** · 08-03-2008, 02:12 AM

I personally don't like this cuil. It's hard to read, and i feel the dark display is gloomy.. i went to it to "check it out" but other than that I wont use it.

**seocontest** · 08-03-2008, 02:46 AM

my bookmark site is getting about 100 visitors a day from cuil so I like it some of my other sites have top listings so I hopr they do well

Beat google? I don't think so! Beat MSN? do able. good enoght to make them rich?maybe

**mokmok69** · 08-04-2008, 05:25 AM

You have walk a million mile to achieve Google status.

**seocd** · 08-05-2008, 06:42 PM

Cuil has great potential but for now it definitely sucks. There are way to many errors for them to have come out claiming they are better than google. I searched a key term for one of my clients "dvd duplication" and it returned NO results. not just no results with my clients website....literally NO results. And that is a pretty competitive keyword. I think ill stick to Google for now.

On the bright side, it is nicely designed.

**niiker345** · 08-05-2008, 09:19 PM

well they have a page rank of 5 and says over 121,617,892,992 web pages. Seems impressive.....